Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

2015-08-12 Thread Robert Rohde
Some years back I was importing a large number of complex templates to a wiki that didn't have tidy enabled. The results were nothing short of horrendous in a substantial number of cases. Wiki authors will generally stop worrying about their code as long as the results look right. For good or il

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

2015-08-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/12/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Tim Starling wrote: >>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331 >> >>Running the output of the MediaWiki parser through HTML Tidy always >>seemed like a nasty hack. The effects on wikitext syntax are arbitrary >>and change from version to version. When we upgrade our

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

2015-08-12 Thread MZMcBride
Tim Starling wrote: >https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331 > >Running the output of the MediaWiki parser through HTML Tidy always >seemed like a nasty hack. The effects on wikitext syntax are arbitrary >and change from version to version. When we upgrade our Linux >distribution, we sometimes see

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2015 at 23:00, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Enforcement is still to-be-determined. This does need to be sorted out ahead of time. Here's today's horrible example: http://kovalc.in/2015/08/12/harassers.html - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 08/12/2015 05:13 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: While you're right we don't have a "binding" policy as of yet, I don't think this should be conflated with us having no rules. We do have some social conventions, and sometimes these work, but they don't always. There have been instances (on both Wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Lightning Talks August 25

2015-08-12 Thread Rachel Farrand
Hi Pine! I love the idea, so thanks for bringing it up. :) As I said in the email - it is not mandatory that the talks are tech related, however the point of these specific lightning talks are to be mostly tech related. Kevin, Megan and I are all very involved in Wikimedia Tech and are doing this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Lightning Talks August 25

2015-08-12 Thread Pine W
Hi, nice idea. I'm just wondering if this concept could be expanded to be more explicitly inclusive of other kinds of activities like L&E, education, GLAM, Legal, Comms, Research, affiliates, etc. I think that this could increase participation. Pine On Aug 12, 2015 10:53 AM, "Rachel Farrand" wrot

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Lightning Talks August 25

2015-08-12 Thread Rachel Farrand
We (Kevin Leduc, Megan Nestler and I) will be doing a second run of lightning talks on August 25. The first round had about 40 people viewing living bother remotely and in SF as well as another 45 views after the talks. ~ More logistic details/signups

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Content WG: Templating, Page Components & editing

2015-08-12 Thread Bryan Davis
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > TL;DR: Join us to discuss Templates, Page Components & editing on Thu, 13 > August, 12:45 – 14:00 PDT [0]. > > Please join us at: > > Thu, 13 August, 12:45 – 14:00 PDT [0] > > by joining the BlueJeans conference call [1], > on IRC, in #wikime

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Content WG: Templating, Page Components & editing

2015-08-12 Thread Subramanya Sastry
On 08/12/2015 09:33 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Gabriel Wicke > wrote: TL;DR: Join us to discuss Templates, Page Components & editing on Thu, 13 August, 12:45 – 14:00 PDT [0]. I can't, so I'll just comment here. in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Content WG: Templating, Page Components & editing

2015-08-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > TL;DR: Join us to discuss Templates, Page Components & editing on Thu, 13 > August, 12:45 – 14:00 PDT [0]. > I can't, so I'll just comment here. including a talk by C.Scott at Wikimania [4] > Looking at the slide deck, it's not terribly

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

2015-08-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 8/10/15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 08/10/2015 07:10 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. We already have: > > As you know, none of those are binding policies that apply to all > Wikimedia technical spaces. > >> * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fri