[Wikitech-l] Let's discuss Growing the MediaWiki Technical Community (Dev Summit)

At the Dev Summit, Birgit Müller and I will run a session on Growing the MediaWiki Technical Community. If you're attending, we hope you will consider joining us. Everyone (attending the Dev Summit or not) is welcome and encouraged to participate at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183318 (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we drop revision hashes (rev_sha1)?

On 09/15/2017 06:51 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Also, I believe Roan is currently looking for a better mechanism for tracking all kinds of reverts directly. Let's see if we want to use rev_sha1 for that better solution (a way to track reverts within MW itself) before we drop it. I know Roan is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata properties for a fresh Wikibase

On 06/20/2017 09:32 AM, Susanna Ånäs wrote: Can you advice how to create equivalent properties to a fresh Wikibase as exist in Wikidata? Everything cannot be replicated, but having equivalent IDs would be positive, and as much related information as possible. After you set: $wgWBRepoSettings['

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

On 04/17/2017 10:50 PM, Chad wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 PM Gergo Tisza wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Value returned from function f() must be of type int, int given Have you enabled PHP7 mode

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security fix for Flow Nuke integration

On 04/17/2017 12:37 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: This affects your wiki if you are using both Flow and Nuke. We recently fixed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162621 , an issue with Flow's Nuke integration. This has now been merged to master as well as the two supported Flow release bra

[Wikitech-l] Security fix for Flow Nuke integration

This affects your wiki if you are using both Flow and Nuke. We recently fixed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162621 , an issue with Flow's Nuke integration. This has now been merged to master as well as the two supported Flow release branches (1.27 and 1.28): master - https://gerrit.wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] SECURITY: Flow security fix to make sure EnableFlow is always attributed

On 01/20/2017 05:02 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: There is a security fix to ensure that EnableFlow is always properly attributed. Backports have been merged for 1.26, 1.27, and 1.28. However, please note that MW 1.26 is end-of-life, and we are not supporting either MW 1.26 or Flow 1.26

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Amendments" section of Code of Conduct

Please comment on whether to approve the "Amendments" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces. The draft text is at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Code_of_Conduct/Draft&oldid=2389930#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FAmendments . You can comment at https://www.mediawiki.org

[Wikitech-l] Please review "Amendments" section of the Code of Conduct

Please take this as a final opportunity to do review/suggest changes/etc. to the Amendments section of the draft Code of Conduct. This text has been up for a while, but I recently put in a small proposed change to make it harder for the Committee to veto amendments. This is the last section.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Creation and renewal of the Committee" section of Code of Conduct

To clarify, this discussion is specifically about "Creation and renewal of the Committee". which is the last section of "Page: Code of Conduct/Committee". I've clarified the subject line accordingly. I appreciate your participation. Thanks, Matt Flaschen On 01/

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Committee" section of Code of Conduct

Please comment on whether to approve the "Creation and renewal of the Committee" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces. The draft text is at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Code_of_Conduct/Draft&oldid=2374387#Creation_and_renewal_of_the_Committee . You can com

[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct "‎Creation and renewal of the Committee" text

Please participate in the discussion about the "‎Creation and renewal of the Committee" section. This is not to approve it yet, just a discussion: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#.22Creation_and_renewal_of_the_Committee.22_section Most of this text has been around for

Re: [Wikitech-l] SECURITY: Flow security fix to make sure EnableFlow is always attributed

On 01/20/2017 05:02 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: There is a security fix to ensure that EnableFlow is always properly attributed. This may be an issue if you see users maliciously using Special:EnableFlow on pages that already exist. To clarify, the page already existing is fine. It's

[Wikitech-l] SECURITY: Flow security fix to make sure EnableFlow is always attributed

There is a security fix to ensure that EnableFlow is always properly attributed. This may be an issue if you see users maliciously using Special:EnableFlow on pages that already exist. It should be merged shortly, but in the meantime, you can download it from Gerrit (https://gerrit.wikimedia

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Conflict of interest" sections of Code of Conduct

Please comment on whether to approve the "Conflict of interest" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces. This section did not reach not reach consensus earlier, but changes were made seeking to address the previous concerns. You can find the section at https://www.mediawiki

[Wikitech-l] CentralAuth MediaWiki-Vagrant

If you use MediaWiki-Vagrant with CentralAuth, you may have noticed it stopped working. There was a recent schema change, and since CA does not use update.php, you have to do it manually (or destroy your box, but that will take a lot longer). If it's broken (huge red box and "Unknown column

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct

On 09/29/2016 11:23 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: Positing it at the village pumpes of the local project (similar to the tech news notifications), for example :-) Or using limited CN banners (similar to the community survey banners). The local projects in this case are MediaWiki.org, wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct

On 09/28/2016 07:07 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki wrote: Last but not least: I am not happy at all that me comment has been strike from https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft&diff=2247995&oldid=2247822 by Matt Flaschen (WMF). Looks like it is no longer allowed to comment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Intro to "Committee" and "Diversity" section approved, "Conflict of interest" needs more work

On 09/06/2016 05:42 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: The community approved the introduction to the Committee section (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCommittee) (the part after "Committee" and before the "Diversity" section), as we

[Wikitech-l] Intro to "Committee" and "Diversity" section approved, "Conflict of interest" needs more work

The community approved the introduction to the Committee section (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCommittee) (the part after "Committee" and before the "Diversity" section), as well as the "Diversity" section (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_C

Re: [Wikitech-l] Opening up MediaWiki dev summit in January?

On 09/01/2016 03:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > However, no one was present at the dev summit who used LanguageConverter on their home wiki, and few folks who rely on Content Translation routinely. (Maybe one or two were present, but not enough to have a reasonable discussion about the future

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize intro to "Committee" section of Code of Conduct

Please comment on whether to approve the introduction to the "Committee" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces. The draft text is at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Code_of_Conduct/Draft&oldid=2208560#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCommittee . This is the part after t

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Diversity" and “Conflict of interest” sections of Code of Conduct

Please comment on whether to approve the "Diversity" and "Conflict of interest" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces: * Diversity - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Diversity * Conflict of interest - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#C

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Ladies That FOSS in Germany in looking for MediaWiki mentors!

On 08/15/2016 03:34 PM, Rachel Farrand wrote: Ladies That FOSS is WMDE's first Open Source Hack Event aimed primarily at women who want to join a Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) project but don’t know where to start. This is a unique opportunity for nonbinary and woman coders to test out unc

[Wikitech-l] "Cases" section approved, finishing "Committee" section of Code of Conduct

The community has approved the "Cases" (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCases) section of the draft Code of Conduct. The next section is "Committee". * Section: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCommittee

Re: [Wikitech-l] ACTION NEEDED: Security issues fixed in Flow

On 07/19/2016 05:30 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Two security issues related to topic title visibility and log entry hiding were fixed in Flow: * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/299863 * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/299864 If you are using master, please pull. Patches are coming for release

[Wikitech-l] Security issues fixed in Flow

Two security issues related to topic title visibility and log entry hiding were fixed in Flow: * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/299863 * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/299864 If you are using master, please pull. Patches are coming for release branches (see follow ups to this thread). Matt _

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

On 07/11/2016 10:10 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: There's another fix: never write null into rev_content_model. Always put the actual model ID there. That's pretty wasteful, but it's robust and reliable. This. We probably would hav

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] The train will resume tomorrow (was Re: All wikis reverted to wmf.8 last night due to T119736)

On 07/12/2016 11:35 PM, Legoktm wrote: We should not be blocking login anymore. The patch[1] I deployed last night catches the exceptions so users are able to login, but still continues to log them. Does that still apply if they're logging in *to* the wiki where their user row is missing?

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] The train will resume tomorrow (was Re: All wikis reverted to wmf.8 last night due to T119736)

On 07/12/2016 09:25 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: I am already writing an incident report, and I welcome a discussion. Incident report for the Echo part of this: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20160712-EchoCentralAuth . Please edit and improve. Thanks, Matt

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] The train will resume tomorrow (was Re: All wikis reverted to wmf.8 last night due to T119736)

On 07/12/2016 07:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: Thanks to Matt Flaschen and Brad Jorsch (and others like Ori Livneh and Bryan Davis) for their help. Also Roan Kattouw, Kunal Mehta, and Stephane Bisson. Matt ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] The train will resume tomorrow (was Re: All wikis reverted to wmf.8 last night due to T119736)

On 07/12/2016 07:56 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: Is it actually fixed? It doesn't look like it, from the logs. It's beyond unhelpful that you would send this email without pointing to the logs you are referring to. With a statement like that, a paste is called for. If you mean the existing inco

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Ops] [Engineering] The train will resume tomorrow (was Re: All wikis reverted to wmf.8 last night due to T119736)

On 07/12/2016 08:15 PM, aude wrote: This (unbreak now) bug has been open since November. I wonder how this has been allowed to remain open and not addressed for this long? This has not all been caused by Echo, and it really isn't one bug, just one symptom. There are clearly multiple causes.

[Wikitech-l] Revert to 1.28.0-wmf.8

All wikis were rolled back to 1.28.0-wmf.8 last night due to an increase in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119736 . We're working on it, and will either go back to 1.28.0-wmf.9, or to 1.28.0-wmf.10 (at normal train pace) when it's resolved. Matt __

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Cases" section of CoC

Please comment on whether to approve the "Cases" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCases). You can comment at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Finalize_.22Cases.22_sec

[Wikitech-l] BREAKING CHANGE, ACTION NEEDED: Flow Vagrant role split into 2

I've split the Flow MediaWiki-Vagrant role into two, to make things simpler for casual Flow users. If you don't have the Flow role enabled, you can stop reading now. The basic 'flow' role will no longer depend on External Store and other optional dependencies. You now need to do one of these

[Wikitech-l] Proposal to reopen the "Unacceptable behavior" section

Yaron Koren has proposed to reopen the "Unacceptable behavior" section (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Suggested_change_to_.22discrimination.22_item). His perspective and mine are given on the talk page. In brief: * He disagrees with how "marginalized and otherwise un

[Wikitech-l] Finishing "Cases" part of Code of Conduct

People are now working to conclude the "Code of Conduct/Cases" part of the draft Code of Conduct: * Section: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Page:_Code_of_Conduct.2FCases * Talk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft * Alternatively, you can provide ano

[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct amendments text

Please participate in the discussion about how the Code of Conduct should be amended: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Changing_the_Code_once_enacted Thanks, Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimed

[Wikitech-l] Collaboration team scrum of scrums update

Collaboration * Blocking ** External Store work on Beta is back in our court. We'll resume soon. * Blocked ** We've asked for a schema change for new Echo functionality. Ops has started looking at this. * Updates ** Echo MVC refactoring merged ** Some deletion fixes to core and Flow __

Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

On 05/21/2016 12:01 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: quim, i would not be angry if you would show a little bit more empathy towards a client, a volunteer. if mzmcbride is right and there is a well established procedure to change this page which was not followed, the person not following might read the "

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic image colorization

On 05/03/2016 03:21 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: In this thread, let's discuss how this technology could be integrated with the projects. Should we have a bot that can perform colorization on demand, the way Rotatebot can rotate images? A couple no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic image colorization

On 05/03/2016 06:31 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: Matt, I agree that they probably picked an inappropriate license. However, we shouldn't assume that the people picking the license have a very sophisticated understanding of licenses. It might be worthwhile to ask the authors why they chose CC BY-NC-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic image colorization

On 05/03/2016 03:21 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: A forthcoming paper from researchers at Waseda University of Japan have developed a method for automatic image colorization using deep learning neural network. The results are both impressive a

Re: [Wikitech-l] MOOC Extension

On 04/13/2016 09:21 AM, Marko Obrovac wrote: Right. Not everything needs a Vagrant role. However, having one definitely increases the chance of people using your extension :) As Baha suggested, you can file a new task in Phabricator and tag it with the MediaWiki-Vagrant project. Yes. A good ex

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems with building OOjs UI locally and exporting it to MW

On 04/14/2016 02:27 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: Yeah, the current state is pretty silly… I think we just got used to it and no longer question how horrible it is. Scripted up: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/283565/ :) Matt ___ Wikitech-l maili

[Wikitech-l] Problems with building OOjs UI locally and exporting it to MW

What's the best way to build OOjs UI locally into the MW lib directory while developing? I'm having two issues: 1. The README.md says: "Install dev dependencies and build the distribution files:`$ npm install`" This does not actually build to dist for me. I then tried: npm run-script publ

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

On 04/02/2016 09:37 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: Why am I going on about this? I guess I'm a bit bummed out that the idea of designing user interfaces that seek to improve the emotional environment by making it easier to be warm and personal to one another is a joke. For what it's worth, as someone wh

[Wikitech-l] Sections of Code of Conduct resolved and Code of Conduct approval process

We’ve gotten good participation as we’ve worked on sections of the Code of Conduct over the past few months, and have made considerable improvements to the draft based on your feedback. Given that, and the community approval through the discussions on each section, the best approach is to proc

[Wikitech-l] Please provide feedback on new discrimination and enforcement sections of Code of Conduct

Thanks for your participation in the recent Code of Conduct discussions. The "Marginalized and underrepresented groups" discussion had a lot of feedback. There was not consensus to use the exact original wording, but many people expressed willingness to support a modified text. I've proposed

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Please provide feedback on suggested improvements to the Code of Conduct

they are complaining about is an admin? Because I have seen admins violate several of these rules of conduct and it's rare for anything to be donecabout it. Reguyla Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE device -- Original message-- *From: *Matthew Flaschen *Date: *Tue, Feb 23, 2016 8:

[Wikitech-l] Please provide feedback on suggested improvements to the Code of Conduct

Thanks to everyone who’s helped work on the Code of Conduct so far. People have brought up issues they feel were missed when working on "Unacceptable behavior" ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Unacceptable_behavior ) and "Report a problem" ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSDEM presentation (Converting LQT to Flow)

On 02/08/2016 06:27 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: Il 08/02/2016 18:42, Marius Hoch ha scritto: For the sake of completeness, there also were two presentations held by WMDE employees: The presentations held by Lucie about the ArticlePlaceholder can be found at http://www.slideshare.net/frimelle/incr

Re: [Wikitech-l] FOSDEM presentation (Converting LQT to Flow)

On 02/08/2016 12:42 PM, Marius Hoch wrote: The presentations held by Lucie about the ArticlePlaceholder can be found at http://www.slideshare.net/frimelle/increasing-access-to-free-and-open-knowledge-for-speakers-of-underserved-languages-on-wikipedia This was a cool talk about an interesting

[Wikitech-l] FOSDEM presentation (Converting LQT to Flow)

I've uploaded my slides for my FOSDEM 2016 presentation (Converting LiquidThreads to Flow: Or, how I learned to stop worrying and love the batch) to Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Converting_LQT_to_Flow_FOSDEM_2016.pdf Matt Flaschen __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

On 01/25/2016 05:58 PM, Alex Monk wrote: On 25 January 2016 at 20:16, Rob Lanphier wrote: So: forks welcome! Any takers? At this point I'm not sure any non-Wikimedia MediaWiki contributors have the resources to do so. I think WMF employs most of the main MW developers, and probably does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

On 01/25/2016 03:16 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: In the short-term, I believe a non-Wikimedia focused subgroup of ArchCom may make sense. The declining MediaWiki use outside of Wikimedia has been a longstanding problem for us, but not the biggest problem. Are there stats that show a decline? Just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

On 01/22/2016 05:03 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: Hi everyone, Those with a keen eye will notice that I filed T124255 , which calls for renaming #MediaWIki-RfCs in Phab to "#ArchCom-RfC". This would be a boring Phab administrivia email if it was simply that.

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Your speaking schedule at FOSDEM

I will be presenting at FOSDEM on the LiquidThreads to Flow conversion, at 2016-01-30, 16:00 Belgium time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=FOSDEM+LiquidThreads+to+Flow+talk+by+Matt+Flaschen%2C+Livestreamed&iso=20160130T15 It will be live-streamed at https://live.fosdem

[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct session at Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016

The Wikimedia Developer Summit starts this Monday, Jan. 4! There will be an information and discussion session about the in-progress Code of Conduct for technical spaces (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft) on Monday. Thanks, Matt Flaschen _

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC office hour this Thursday: reconnecting with the shared hosting community

On 11/16/2015 02:59 PM, Gilles Dubuc wrote: As part of T113210 [1], which is a broader discussion on track for the developer summit, I am hosting an IRC office hour [2] this Thursday at 19:00 UTC. You might also want to send these messages to mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org . It seems likel

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which hook to use and how for pre-save-modifications of wikitext?

On 11/14/2015 05:36 PM, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: Hi, I want to implement something similar to expansion or the pipe-trick in internal links in an extension. That is, I need to execute code - on save and preview only, - on wikitext ony, - on page content only, - before the pre-save-pars

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Your stand proposal for FOSDEM 2016 has been accepted

The MediaWiki/Wikimedia stand has been accepted for FOSDEM. The main coordination point prior to the event will be https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106560 . Thanks, Matt Flaschen Forwarded Message Subject: Your stand proposal for FOSDEM 2016 has been accepted Date: Mon, 1

[Wikitech-l] Please help finish "Cases" page of CoC (+updates)

We are now working on the "Cases" page of the draft Code of conduct. This will become a separate page (for readability of the final CoC), but is being drafted on the same page with the rest. This includes both the intro section, and all the sub-sections, which means everything that starts with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing to Wikimedia Foundation

On 11/19/2015 08:32 AM, Bill Morrisson wrote: Thanks Brian for the info. I'm realising that it has already been done but the task was not closed Actually, it has not been done. The last change (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/MW/history/master/maintenance/oracle/tables.sql) to

Re: [Wikitech-l] XML dumps

On 05/28/2015 07:52 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > With proper release management, it should be possible to run the old version of the process until the new version has been tested, first on some smaller wikis, and gradually on the larger ones. I understand your frustration; however release manag

Re: [Wikitech-l] Security patch for Flow merged

On 11/17/2015 05:12 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Nick Wilson discovered a security issue that affects Flow when used with caching proxies such as Varnish: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116095 (this task will be opened soon). In such a setup, topics in cache would remain accessible after

[Wikitech-l] Security patch for Flow merged

Nick Wilson discovered a security issue that affects Flow when used with caching proxies such as Varnish: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116095 (this task will be opened soon). In such a setup, topics in cache would remain accessible after the board was deleted. We have deployed the fix

[Wikitech-l] Weigh in on whether to finalize "Report a problem" section of CoC

Please comment on whether to approve the "Report a problem" section of the draft Code of conduct for technical spaces (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Report_a_problem). You can comment at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Finalize_.22Report_a_probl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please help finish "Report a problem" section of CoC (+updates)

On 10/22/2015 12:02 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: We are now working on the "Report a problem" section of the draft Code of conduct: * Section: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Report_a_problem * Talk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Fini

[Wikitech-l] Please help finish "Report a problem" section of CoC (+updates)

We are now working on the "Report a problem" section of the draft Code of conduct: * Section: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Report_a_problem * Talk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#Finishing_the_.22Report_a_problem.22_section * Alternatively

[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct and publication of private non-harassing communication

Quim has proposed an alternative wording for the text about republication of private communication. You can comment at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft#New_proposal.2C_welcomes_feedback or to conduct-discuss...@wikimedia.org . Thanks as always, Matt Flaschen __

[Wikitech-l] Code of conduct consensus discussions update

Full consensus was not reached on "Follow-up consensus discussion on intro, "Principles", "Expected behavior" and "Unacceptable behavior" sections" (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Follow-up_consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_.22Ex

[Wikitech-l] Code of conduct consensus discussions

The code of conduct (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft) is still actively being worked on. There are two new consensus discussions: * Whether to consider most of the text from the last discussion done, but improve the controversial text (certain sentenc

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Feedback needed on intro, "Principles", "Expected behavior" and "Unacceptable behavior" sections of COde of Conduct

On 10/03/2015 10:59 AM, Quim Gil wrote: 2. At https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Follow-up_consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_.22Expected_behavior.22_and_.22Unacceptable_behavior.22_sections, leave your possitioning: {{accept}}, {{neut

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing Danny Horn's move to Community Tech

On 10/01/2015 07:05 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: Howdy (my apologies for cross-posting), I'm pleased to announce that the Community Tech team has a new Product Manager – Danny Horn, who will be moving from the Collaboration team to join this new initiative. The Community Tech team is focused on build

[Wikitech-l] Feedback needed on intro, "Principles", "Expected behavior" and "Unacceptable behavior" sections of COde of Conduct

Consensus was reached in the first discussion regarding the intro, "Principles", and "Unacceptable behavior" sections. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_and_.22Unacceptable_behavior.22_sections

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

On 09/17/2015 03:26 PM, Tomasz Finc wrote: The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static maps service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org. Congratulations to the whole team. This is a huge deal, and will open up our projects to whole new kinds of media, editing, an

[Wikitech-l] Consensus discussion on Code of Conduct intro, "Principles", and "Unacceptable behavior" sections

Please weigh in at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_and_.22Unacceptable_behavior.22_sections on whether to consider the text of the intro (section before "Principles"), "Principles", and "Unaccepta

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 09/04/2015 03:12 PM, Brandon Harris wrote: On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Toby Negrin wrote: 1. We're moving people from an open platform to a closed platform: I think this is an oversimplification of the situation -- as has been noted before, the android app is 100% open source and while t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 09/05/2015 05:32 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: lol, consensus among whom, to what? "There is consensus at" - Consensus among people discussing at that talk page. "that the best way to finalize the CoC draft is to focus on a few sections at once" - Consensus about that. Matt Flaschen _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 09/05/2015 07:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote: I think there are people who sympathize with and even support efforts to have codes of conduct in technical spaces, but who don't want to feel demonized for being male. Then those people should be glad to participate in finalizing this CoC. There's a

[Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

There is consensus at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Next_steps that the best way to finalize the CoC draft is to focus on a few sections at once (while still allowing people to comment on other ones). This allows progress without requiring people to

Re: [Wikitech-l] New RFC: better JS minification

On 09/01/2015 07:53 PM, MZMcBride wrote: I'd personally prefer that we move in the other direction, removing the minification. I think it's harmful to the open Web to minify, or worse, obfuscate our code. I don't agree with this. However, I do think source maps (which allow you to serve minif

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/03/2015 03:54 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > that only non-Wikimedia developers have maintained LQT > is false, as a brief review of the commit log will show. I said "non-Wikimedia users". Not sure what log you've been looking to, but I did `git log --no-merges -- . ':(exclude)i18n'`

Re: [Wikitech-l] QA: Holding our code to better standards.

On 09/03/2015 02:45 PM, Jon Robson wrote: The future!: Given this success: 1) I would like to see us run @integration tests on core, but I understand given the number of bugs this might not be feasible so far. 2) We should run @integration tests prior to deployments to the cluster via the train a

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 09/02/2015 03:55 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: Even ignoring the "is it right and ethical" debate, there's a pretty large amount of research over the past 6 or so months that show this is a bad idea. [citation needed] Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 02:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. As noted, Flow is not unmaintained. Can we reverse the Flow conversion on mediawiki.org now, so that the wiki stays on the luckiest side i.e. the extension which has most u

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 09:21 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 2 September 2015 at 07:27, Dan Garry wrote: On 1 September 2015 at 23:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. To quote Danny's email directly, "Flow will be maintained and supporte

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 12:35 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 2 September 2015 at 14:51, Risker wrote: I want to thank the Collaboration team for taking this brave step - and yes, it's a brave step. The natural trajectory of large projects that don't quite seem to meet their promise is to keep going and goin

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 09/01/2015 11:30 AM, Ori Livneh wrote: We appear to be running a banner campaign on the mobile web site, driving people to download the mobile app: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/?banner=Aug2015_app_banner_2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/?banner=Aug2015_app_banner_1 Campaign definition: h

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 08/24/2015 02:44 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: The "I remembered having my butt pinched, my breasts 'accidentally touched'" part would seem to fall under the proposed policy. As is "unwanted attention", even if verbal, and "sustained disruption, interruption", which would be applicable if people a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 08/22/2015 10:52 PM, Risker wrote: Perhaps more importantlywho were the local contacts at Hackathon 2015? I can't even dig that one up in the event documentation. A policy that exists but has no clear or visible support isn't worth the bytes it's written with. This is a good point. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct committee

On 08/21/2015 06:43 AM, Quim Gil wrote: I also would like to see more edits from volunteers and other affiliations. Please jump in! Most WMF employees drafting and discussing there are doing so out of their personal interest, with no WMF directive and most likely on their own time. I'm basically

[Wikitech-l] Code of conduct committee

There is some discussion now about how the Code of Conduct Committee should be formed. See: * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Membership_of_the_committee_and_ECT.27s_role and * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tools for dealing with citations of withdrawn academic journal articles

On 08/18/2015 05:42 AM, Pine W wrote: Is there any easy way to find all of citations of specified academic articles on Wikipedias in all languages, and the text that is supported by those references, so that the citations of questionable articles can be removed and the article texts can be quickl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

On 08/19/2015 10:17 PM, Jamison Lofthouse wrote: The subject sounds exactly like the reCAPTCHA < https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html> tagline. Not sure how beneficial the project would be but I have seen it used. Maybe worth looking into. Unfortunately, we can not use reCAPTCHA be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

On 08/17/2015 08:28 PM, Frances Hocutt wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Alex Monk wrote: It looks like "Communicate about technology in public where possible. Private means of communication do exist, but prefer to use public places unless an exception is appropriate." has been removed a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

On 08/06/2015 08:17 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Please participate at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft . The draft has now been rebased onto Contributor Covenant (a widely used Code of Conduct), per a discussion on our talk page. Now is a good time

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 08/12/2015 06:41 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 12 August 2015 at 23:00, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Enforcement is still to-be-determined. This does need to be sorted out ahead of time. See my proposal at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft

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