Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] TEST

2019-01-01 Thread Pine W
Hello and happy new year. Is there a reason that you sent a test message to multiple Wikimedia mailing lists? There may be good reasons for testing the ability to send an email to multiple lists, but I am not aware of one in the present circumstances. Pine (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thank you Thursday

2018-12-20 Thread Pine W
Thank you to Morgan in Community Resources for timely responses to emails.-- Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Maps-l] Old tiles.wfmlabs.org maps services need maintainers to keep them alive after december 18th

2018-12-13 Thread Pine W
Hi DJ, Out of curiosity, what all would be involved in the OS change? The bike layers could be a nontrivial loss for some folks. If no regular WMF staff are available for the OS changes and ongoing maintenance, and if the use of bike lanes (or other features) is significant in the opinion of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thank you Tuesday

2018-12-04 Thread Pine W
Thanks for doing this. The level of participation in the "What's making you happy this week?" threads has been a bit disappointing, but I'm glad to see this initiative for Wikitech-l which I think is in the same spirit. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-11-28 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-11-28 Thread Pine W
Hi, I would like to request that, even if a team doesn't have a representative at a scrum of scrums meeting, the team submit a written status report that can be included in the SOS notes. I read these SOS notes to try to keep up to date with the many technical and product developments in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thank you Tuesday

2018-11-27 Thread Pine W
Hi Risker,It's nice to see you on a public mailing list again. I have missed our conversations, including our arguments. You're an excellent sparring partner. I hope that this doesn't come across as sarcastic; I'm genuinely glad to see you. You help to keep me sharp, and Wikimedia benefits from

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Cloud] [Cloud-announce] Brief service interruption next Monday 2018-11-19 at 13:00 UTC

2018-11-16 Thread Pine W
Cross-posting. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 1:04 PM Subject: [Cloud] [Cloud-announce] Brief service interruption next Monday 2018-11-19 at 13:00 UTC To: Next monday

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] Tentative time/place for next EMWCon: April 3-5, 2019 in San Francisco

2018-11-16 Thread Pine W
Forwarding an announcement. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Yaron Koren Date: Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:36 PM Subject: [MediaWiki-l] Tentative time/place for next EMWCon: April 3-5, 2019 in San Francisco To: MediaWiki announcements

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] The WikiCite 2018 program is live

2018-11-16 Thread Pine W
Forwarding to other email lists which may have subscribers who are interested. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Dario Taraborelli Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 8:05 PM Subject: [Wikidata] The WikiCite 2018 program is live To: ,

[Wikitech-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 November 2018)

2018-11-10 Thread Pine W
This is a more solemn email than is usual. I recognize that this email reflects my personal view, and if this email is not something that you appreciate then I invite you to disregard it and write your own email regarding something that makes you happy or grateful this week. The 11th of November

Re: [Wikitech-l] Incident with the beta-feature Two Column Edit Conflict View

2018-11-08 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the report. I'm sorry to hear about the edits being lost, which I know from experience is frustrating to me when I've written text that disappeared, but I understand that especially when using beta features sometimes these things happen. I'm glad that this was found in beta rather than

Re: [Wikitech-l] which programs convert? keep metadata when transforming metadata

2018-11-05 Thread Pine W
Gimp has an option to preserve the metadata, and my guess is that most other image editors do too. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:45 AM rupert THURNER wrote: > hi, > > fotos and films are converted quite often in the wikimedia space. metadata > is

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] November 30 deadline for new Project Grant proposals

2018-11-05 Thread Pine W
Cross-posting. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Chris "Jethro" Schilling Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] November 30 deadline for new Project Grant proposals To: Wikimedia Mailing List Hi folks, The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Advice on Tuning Search?

2018-11-02 Thread Pine W
Hi Michael, If you're interested in subjects regarding search then I suggest that you subscribe to the Discovery mailing list. Your question would be a great fit for that list (not that it's bad to post it to Wikitech-l). See https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery. Pine (

[Wikitech-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 28 October 2018)

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
User:SuperHamster has done a remarkable amount of volunteering for Wikimedia in the United States this year. In addition to supporting the Ohio Wikimedians User Group ,

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
of N > Wikipedias. > > > El 29/10/18 a las 19:29, Pine W escribió: > > I'm hesitant to support hiding information from readers, including links > to > > Wikidata. As an alternative to hiding information, could articles that > are > > semi-protected on Wikip

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
I'm hesitant to support hiding information from readers, including links to Wikidata. As an alternative to hiding information, could articles that are semi-protected on Wikipedia (I assume that this refers to ENWP, but perhaps it refers to other languages also) automatically have semi-protection

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-21 Thread Pine W
Hi Lodewijk, I want to encourage people to feel comfortable with posting in-scope and civil emails to WMF mailing lists, but my personal opinion is that the number of reminders is sometimes excessive and the related costs are non-trivial. My view is that excessive reminders about meetings have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-10-21 Thread Pine W
is the same as for the August meetup (see below) except for the change of date. If you have questions then you're welcome to email me on-list or off-list. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on commen

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-19 Thread Pine W
I've heard little support for new norms regarding reminders and announcements of deadlines on Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l, so I withdraw my proposal. I may revisit this subject in the future. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___

[Wikitech-l] Proposal regarding norms for meeting/deadline announcements

2018-10-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l, Keeping in mind the large numbers of subscribers on some Wikimedia email lists, the endless valuable uses for the time of knowledgeable volunteer Wikimedians, the significant financial costs for the time of many of the staff and contractors on these mailing lists,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Data loss during the data centre switchover

2018-10-14 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the info. I'm glad that all of the data will be recovered. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 8:09 AM Manuel Arostegui wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 4:38 AM Pine W wrote: > > > Forwarding news of data loss. :( Hopefully

[Wikitech-l] Qu'est-ce qui te rend heureuse cette semaine? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 14 October 2018)

2018-10-14 Thread Pine W
Recently I spent some time on Commons, and I came across two things that I especially appreciated. The first is a story on Yann's user page . While I think that experience with participating on public Wikimedia projects is an important qualification

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Data loss during the data centre switchover

2018-10-12 Thread Pine W
Forwarding news of data loss. :( Hopefully it will all be recoverable. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Léa Lacroix Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:46 PM Subject: [Wikidata] Data loss during the data centre switchover To: Discussion

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] FileLinkTool

2018-10-09 Thread Pine W
Thanks, this looks like a nice addition that will cumulatively save people a lot of time if used widely. I'm forwarding to the Commons and Wikitech lists. I haven't tested it but the concept looks good. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:14 AM Ananth

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-03 Thread Pine W
Regarding 'A recent unrelated ticket I made was closed with the "no resource to waste on that" by a product owner.': I think that civil messages explaining why a ticket won't be addressed would be helpful, as would civil messages explaining why tasks are being moved to a "freezer", instead of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code Health Newsletter - Issue 1 Volume 1

2018-10-03 Thread Pine W
Hello, Thank you for this info. I share an interest in the maintainability of code that may be around for years, long after the people who write it are no longer involved with Wikimedia. It sounds like the Code Health Group is effectively an internal special interest group for Wikimedia people

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-02 Thread Pine W
I'm grateful for this largely civil and productive discussion. I'd like to suggest that the multiple sub-topics being discussed here might be easier to follow if the entire discussion is moved to a wiki talk page, such as on MediaWiki.org. I am not attempting to halt discussion or to tell people

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-02 Thread Pine W
I agree with this approach, and also with moving tasks to a "freezer".  I support depreciating the use of "needs volunteer (developer)". Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: James Hare Date: 10/2/18 11:41 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] problematic use of "Declined" in Phabricator

2018-10-02 Thread Pine W
Joe, "Invalid" means something like "this is not a legitimate report; the user had mis-configured their browser". "Declined" means something like "We understand the user's request but we won't change the default font size based on the reasoning provided here." Pine (

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

2018-09-29 Thread Pine W
Forwarding because this (ambitious!) proposal may be of interest to people on other lists. I'm not endorsing the proposal at this time, but I'm curious about it. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: Denny Vrandečić Date: Sat, Sep 29,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-09-24 Thread Pine W
he end of Wednesday.) Thanks, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite >> people to a casual online meetup one ho

Re: [Wikitech-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey arepublished!

2018-09-16 Thread Pine W
Hi 80hnhtv4agou, I accidentally mentioned your post on the Research-l mailing list without realizing that you sent your email to Wikitech-l. If you are interested, I invite you to join Research-l and engage in discussion about research issues there:

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-09-05 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-09-06 Thread Pine W
ke to read it. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:22 AM Manuel Arostegui wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Pine W wrote: > > > Thanks as usual for these, Grace. > > > > I feel good if I can vaguely understand 50% of wha

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-09-05 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-09-05 Thread Pine W
Thanks as usual for these, Grace. I feel good if I can vaguely understand 50% of what's in these notes. I have an elementary question, and I hope that I'm not testing anyone's patience with this question. Do the switchover/switchback issues and related requests to freeze certain activities have

[Wikitech-l] ما الذي يمنحك السعادة هذا الأسبوع؟ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 2 September 2018)

2018-09-03 Thread Pine W
*The Guardian* published an encouraging opinion piece about Wikipedia: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/02/in-hysterical-world-wikipedia-ray-of-light-truth In *This Month in Education*, there were some nice reports. I especially appreciated this report from The Hashemite

Re: [Wikitech-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-30 Thread Pine W
in the Café then please mark your calendars now, because I will send at most one more reminder before the September meetup. *Au revoir* <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/au_revoir>, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:24 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] Datacenter switchover and switchback

2018-08-30 Thread Pine W
a.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: Pine W Date: 8/30/18 7:57 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Datacenter switchover and switchback +1 to DJ's question about timing. Also, one might wish to be mindful of the number of recent trains

Re: [Wikitech-l] Datacenter switchover and switchback

2018-08-30 Thread Pine W
+1 to DJ's question about timing. Also, one might wish to be mindful of the number of recent trains that were supposed to be boring but involved interesting surprises; this makes me wonder whether trains that one thinks will be boring are actually OK in this circumstance even if they turn out

[Wikitech-l] Vad gör dig lycklig den här veckan? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 26 August 2018)

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
Wikimedia Sverige recived a $65,500 grant from the Swedish National Library in support of the Library Data project: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2018-August/012351.html WMDE has multiple open staff positions in software development, design, fundraising, and legal services:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improvements to the wikitext diff view

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
Thank you! Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:20 AM Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenit...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Hi Pine and others, > > I made another before-after-screenshot for the mobile-version with the > "Honeyguide"-Example also used for

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Updates for failed logins and OurMine

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message - From: John Bennett Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 5:56 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Updates for failed logins and OurMine To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Hello, The Security team will be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-29 Thread Pine W
ed or have something else that is important to do during the Café time tomorrow. This is a social invitation. Until next time, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:15 PM Pine W wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on comments that I received on Wikime

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improvements to the wikitext diff view

2018-08-23 Thread Pine W
Thank you very much Michael. To give the non-editors an idea of the importance, the sizes of the headaches, and the amount of time that editors were spending on trying to understand complex diffs, I've seen multiple complex diffs used in questions for candidates for English Wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] C-team Statement on the Code of Conduct

2018-08-14 Thread Pine W
James, let's stay on topic, please. If you want to talk about other issues then please start a new thread. Victoria, I have mixed feelings about this statement. I agree that we want to have civility in technical spaces, and a technical code of conduct is one important way of working toward that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of anti-vandalism measures in Phabricator

2018-08-13 Thread Pine W
Thank you, Mukunda. I am experiencing a shortage of good news today, so I'm glad to read about your work on this. Hopefully people whose accounts are accidentally disabled will be understanding, and hopefully their recovery experiences will be simple and straightforward. Regards, Pine (

[Wikitech-l] Шта те чини срећном ове недеље? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 12 August 2018)

2018-08-12 Thread Pine W
Recently, I was outside at night, and I was fortunate to see several meteors. The 2018 Perseid meteor shower is at its peak this weekend. Also, yesterday I spent some time on English Wikipedia's main page and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia production issues (August 2018)

2018-08-10 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the summary. :) Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:43 AM Krinkle wrote: > How did we do in our strive for operational excellence since last month? > Read on to find out! > > ## The month in numbers > > * 2 documented incidents since July

[Wikitech-l] Invitation to a "Wikimedia Café" casual online meetup

2018-08-09 Thread Pine W
Hi folks, Based on comments that I received on Wikimedia-l, I would like to invite people to a casual online meetup one hour before the monthly WMF Metrics and Activities Meeting. There will be no set agenda. You can come with questions or ideas that you would like to discuss. Please be willing

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-08-01 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-08-03 Thread Pine W
Thanks for this update. I would like to ask for more information about what is happening with regard to "Product and design are collating research and interviews from Wikimania and working on advanced contributions". Can someone who is familiar with that work please share more information? Feel

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07

2018-08-01 Thread Pine W
OK, it sounds like the fuzziness with prioritization, perhaps with the exception of "unbreak now", isn't worth the effort to harmonize globally because doing so would require nontrivial effort for questionable gain. Thanks for clarifying. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07

2018-08-01 Thread Pine W
) On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:49 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:14 PM Pine W wrote: > > > Thanks for the updated statistics. I wonder, was there ever an agreement > on > > how to standardize the definitions for priorities, such as "unbreak now&qu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2018-07

2018-08-01 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the updated statistics. I wonder, was there ever an agreement on how to standardize the definitions for priorities, such as "unbreak now" and "high"? The reason that I ask is that a median age of 738 days for "high" priority tasks seems very long. I would hope that we would not take two

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Video output changing to WebM VP9/Opus soon

2018-07-30 Thread Pine W
I meant end of August. Sorry for the extra email noise. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:15 AM, Pine W wrote: > Thanks, Brion. At my current rate of progress, I'll be making use of this > feature by the end of the month. > > Pi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Video output changing to WebM VP9/Opus soon

2018-07-30 Thread Pine W
Thanks, Brion. At my current rate of progress, I'll be making use of this feature by the end of the month. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:51 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Configuration has been updated and VP9 mode swapped in. Newly uploaded > videos

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] MW Train status: Incomplete rollout, blocked on two issues

2018-07-24 Thread Pine W
Regarding "1.32.0-wmf.13 train continues to be "interesting". Trains should not be interesting. They should be boring.", I am reminded of something that I read which is supposedly an ancient Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times." It sounds like all ended well, so congratulations on

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Multimedia] Video output changing to WebM VP9/Opus soon

2018-06-28 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the update. As you can imagine, I am very interested in this! Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: Brion Vibber Date: 6/28/18 1:54 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Wikimedia Foundation Multimedia Team Cc: Wikimedia-tech list Subject: Re:

Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: Warning on behalf of Code of conduct committee

2018-06-24 Thread Pine W
(I was trying to take this entire weekend offline, but having failed at that for a variety of reasons, I am now giving up completely.) MZMcBride, while I appreciate your energetic engagement, I think that it's reasonable to ask that you slow down a bit and consider alternative ways to express

[Wikitech-l] Què us fa feliç aquesta setmana? / What makes you happy this week? (Week of 17 June 2018)

2018-06-16 Thread Pine W
Below are some recent highlights from the wikiverse. Here is a Phabractor ticket regarding the showcase from Wikimedia Hackathon 2018 in Barcelona: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195219 Here is the Wikidata report from the May 2018 issue of *This Month in GLAM*:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-12 Thread Pine W
Regarding "Mandatory code review (especially with a required waiting time) and mandatory reauthentication are far more invasive than removing JS editing permissions from administrators who don't want them.": I think that mandatory code review and mandatory authentication would be far less

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Nathan wrote: > Is the risk of an attacker taking over an account with CSS/JS edit > permissions any more or less because that person knows how to use CSS/JS? > If the criteria will be that only people who know how to use CSS/JS will > get access to make those

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
I tend to agree with Steven's comments. I think that requiring review would, as he said, be less costly to implement in terms of the amount of volunteer time spent on managing permissions. I think that there would also be less time spent discussing and redesigning social processes than there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
Apologies for the typos. Speaking of being thoughtful, perhaps I should be more careful when typing on mobile devices. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: Pine W Date: 6/11/18 1:42 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Gergő, I think that your proposal makes sense and would be good for the community to consider in an RfC. Because this could involve complex wikilegal changes to how Wikimedia sites assign user permissions, and presently unforseen side effects, I think that the RfC should be translated into a

[Wikitech-l] ?מה עושה אותך מאושר השבוע / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 10 June 2018)

2018-06-09 Thread Pine W
Here are some highlights: * "Improved geocoding in CiviCRM", by Eileen McNaughton: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/05/improved-geocoding-in-civicrm/ * "Thank you week-end thread", with posts by hashar ( https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2018-June/090126.html) and legoktm (

[Wikitech-l] Wat maak jou gelukkig hierdie week? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 3 June 2018)

2018-06-02 Thread Pine W
* From the WMF blog: "Annual Wikimedia conference “Wikimania” to make debut in Sub-Saharan Africa " * A few weeks ago, the WMF Audiences Department published its Q3 check-in slides and notes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Building tools, services and datasets that respect deleted and suppressed revisions

2018-06-02 Thread Pine W
Hi, Thanks for your interest. Your question looks to me like it's a better fit for Research-l or the Analytics list than Wikitech-l. I suggest that you head that way , where Dario has made a related announcement recently on the subject

[Wikitech-l] Kio faras vin feliĉa ĉi-semajne? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 27 May 2018)

2018-05-26 Thread Pine W
The Wikidata development team released to production the first version of Wikidata support of lexicographical data: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ pipermail/wikidata/2018-May/012090.html. A large issue of *The Signpost* was published with several thought-provoking pieces:

[Wikitech-l] ⠠⠺⠓⠁⠞⠄⠎ ⠍⠁⠅⠊⠝⠛ ⠽⠕⠥ ⠓⠁⠏⠏⠽ ⠞⠓⠊⠎ ⠺⠑⠑⠅⠦ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 20 May 2018)

2018-05-19 Thread Pine W
*Between the Brackets* Yaron Koren produced a 30 minute digest of previous episodes of this podcast. Much of the episode will be understandable by people who are not developers but are familiar with how MediaWiki works. I enjoyed listening to this:

[Wikitech-l] Nini kinakufanya uwe na furaha wiki hii? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 13 May 2018)

2018-05-12 Thread Pine W
From the WMF Blog: * "The stories behind this year’s award-winning photographs from Wiki Loves Africa": https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/05/07/wiki-loves-africa-winners/ * "Here’s everything we published from the design, development, and data process for the page previews feature":

[Wikitech-l] Apa yang membuat anda gembira minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 6 May 2018)

2018-05-06 Thread Pine W
I was happy to read about the new features in the latest release of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. My understanding is the app is developed and maintained by community members with funding from WMF and GSoC in addition to volunteer time. Also, I was happy to see GSoC participants

Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2018 Introduction: Prssanna Desai

2018-05-05 Thread Pine W
Welcome, Prssanna. Because your project involves WDQS, I am cross-posting your introduction to the Wikidata mailing list. Good luck with your project. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: prssanna desai Date: 5/5/18 5:56

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Τι σας κάνει ευτυχισμένη αυτήν την εβδομάδα? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 22 April 2018)

2018-05-03 Thread Pine W
on, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Saint Johann <ole.y...@gmail.com> wrote: > Or you could’ve just give a link somewhere with those messages to a page > where someone could drop you a translation in their language ;-) > > Oleg > > > > On 30/04/2018 21:05, Pine W wrote: > &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Τι σας κάνει ευτυχισμένη αυτήν την εβδομάδα? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 22 April 2018)

2018-04-30 Thread Pine W
Thank you for that information, Alexandros. :) I rely extensively on machine translation, and online resources like Wiktionary, when I do translations for these weekly threads in most languages. There will probably be more linguistic errors in the future. Comments regarding translations would be

[Wikitech-l] Apa yang membuat Anda bahagia minggu ini? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 29 April 2018)

2018-04-29 Thread Pine W
*Plans for lexicographical data on Wikidata* The first version of lexicographical data on Wikidata is planned for the end of May 2018. "Lexicographical data can be reused on the Wikimedia projects, and can provide

[Wikitech-l] Τι σας κάνει ευτυχισμένη αυτήν την εβδομάδα? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 22 April 2018)

2018-04-21 Thread Pine W
*"To be, or not to be"* A phrase from Shakespeare's *Hamlet *is "To be, or not to be, that is the question"*.* Chris Koerner from WMF Discovery published some interesting information about the verb "to be", and how on-wiki search deals with it, in this

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2018-04-18 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2018-04-19 Thread Pine W
Hi Grace, I'm surprised to see so few reports for Audiences. Do you happen to know the reason for that? Decisions and projects in Audiences can have significant effects on my current principal Wikimedia project, so I try to keep myself up to speed with what happens and what is planned in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing Quibble, a test runner for MediaWiki

2018-04-19 Thread Pine W
Cool. Pardon my novice level understanding of containers and devops. Am I correct in saying that the plan is to use Docker to improve the efficiency of testing for MediaWiki? Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Antoine Musso

[Wikitech-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 April 2018)

2018-04-15 Thread Pine W
*Conference* The 2018 Wikimedia Conference starts this week in Germany. The core conference will occur from the 20th through the 22nd. *WMF Research Showcase* On Wednesday, the WMF Research Showcase

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] Announcing the Core Platform team

2018-04-10 Thread Pine W
Hi Victoria and Toby. Thank you for this information. I am a little hazy about a couple of points and I hope that you can provide more detail. 1. My understanding from your email is that the converged Core Platform Team will exist inside of the Technology Department, but the Platform Evolution

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: ما الذي يمنحك السعادة هذا الأسبوع؟ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 8 April 2018)

2018-04-08 Thread Pine W
I forgot to include Wikitech-l. :) Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message -- From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:27 PM Subject: ما الذي يمنحك السعادة هذا الأسبوع؟ / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 8

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] Announcing the Wikimedia Technical Conference

2018-04-03 Thread Pine W
Forwarding. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) Original message From: Victoria Coleman Date: 4/2/18 4:46 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "Staff (All)" , MediaWiki announcements and site admin list

[Wikitech-l] Ullaakuut. What's making you happy this week? (Week of 1 April 2018)

2018-04-01 Thread Pine W
For a few years an interest of mine has been the possibility of Wikimedians collaborating with North American indigenous peoples to educate the public about North American indigenous languages, cultures, histories, and religions. In 2014, the *Signpost *published a report

[Wikitech-l] Cosa ti rende felice questa settimana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 25 March 2018)

2018-03-25 Thread Pine W
What's making me happy this week is that I discovered by accident that if I copy a normal URL for a Wikimedia page, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur, into the New WikiText Editor (which I like to call "NEWT") or VisualEditor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unblocking 79 IPs blocked as open proxies 12 years ago (T189840)

2018-03-23 Thread Pine W
Hello, Thanks for looking into these issues. I would like to suggest that good forums for this discussion prior to removing blocked IPs, and good places to notify Wikimedians who are likely to be interested in these subjects, would be the Stewards' Noticeboard on Meta at

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Notification about problem identified with a recent CentralNotice banner

2018-03-18 Thread Pine W
Forwarding to Wikitech-l for the benefit of Wikitech-l subscribers who do not subscribe to Wikimedia-l. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message -- From: Gregory Varnum Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 6:57 PM Subject:

[Wikitech-l] ¿Qué te hace feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 March 2018)

2018-03-18 Thread Pine W
What's making me happy this week: * French Wikipedia administrator and OTRS volunteer 0x010C created a calendar in Lua that works on MediaWiki. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik i/Template:Events_calendar and https://lists.wikimedia.org/pi

Re: [Wikitech-l] What ways are there to include user-edited JavaScript in a wiki page? (threat model: crypto miners)

2018-03-17 Thread Pine W
Musikanimal, that sounds like a good suggestion to add to Phabricator. I hope that there is way that these suggestions are being tracked but I don't see a public task for this on the Security workboard, possibly to avoid announcing vulnerabilities in public until they have been assessed. Unless

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any way to find the used template from the template itself?

2018-03-10 Thread Pine W
I believe that I've had similar problems in the past. I have created https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189404. Thanks for bringing this up, Strainu. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Strainu wrote: > Thanks Gergo > >

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: ¿Qué te hace feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 March 2018)

2018-03-10 Thread Pine W
I apologize for forgetting to include Wikitech-l in my original post. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) -- Forwarded message -- What's making me happy this week: 1. A recent entry in the Mozilla Blog discussed the possible value of anonymity in decreasing bias

[Wikitech-l] News about TLS 1.3

2018-03-06 Thread Pine W
I'm no expert on TLS 1.3, but I thought that other folks on Wikitech-l might be interested in the industry news about the subject. The relevant WMF Phabricator task is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170567. Articles: * "An Overview of TLS 1.3 – Faster and More Secure":

[Wikitech-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 4 March 2018)

2018-03-03 Thread Pine W
There was thoughtful, robust, and civil conversations on Wikimedia-l last week about multiple topics including translation and Wikimedia's relationship with Facebook. Translation of Phabricator's interface is now possible. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T225. Regex searches for the titles

[Wikitech-l] ¿Qué te hace feliz esta semana? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 25 February 2018)

2018-02-25 Thread Pine W
(Hello, I am trying something new this week by writing in Spanish. I am hoping to encourage people to contribute to this conversation in their preferred languages.) Hola, estoy intentando algo nuevo esta semana escribiendo en español. Espero animar a las personas a contribuir a esta conversación

Re: [Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2018-02-14

2018-02-20 Thread Pine W
f relying on a url > shortener to separate hits. > > -- > bawolff > > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Regarding "There seems to be interest in reviving the WMF hosted URL > > shortener service", +1 from me, par

Re: [Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar, 2018-02-14

2018-02-20 Thread Pine W
Regarding "There seems to be interest in reviving the WMF hosted URL shortener service", +1 from me, particularly if there will be public logs of how many people (i.e. not bots) clicked a particular short link in a certain period of time that is long enough to provide some anonymity but short

[Wikitech-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 18 February 2018)

2018-02-18 Thread Pine W
What's making me happy this week is Isarra's persistence in working on the Timeless skin. Timeless is based on Winter. [0] [1] For anyone who would like to try Timeless, it's available in Preferences under Appearance / Skin. What's making you happy this week? Pine (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikistats 2.0 - Now with Maps!

2018-02-18 Thread Pine W
Thanks for the Wikistats 2 update, Nuria. Igal, may I suggest that further discussion about specific bugs should take place on Phabricator? Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Meaningful work

2018-02-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Wikitech-l, This email is directed primarily to the engineering and technical staff. On February 1st, I was in a conversation with a few non-WMF engineers. To my surprise, none of them said that they felt that their work was personally meaningful to them, with one exception of an engineer who

[Wikitech-l] What's making you happy this week? (Week of 11 February 2018)

2018-02-11 Thread Pine W
I liked the interview (link below) of Cindy Cicalese by Yaron Koren. I learned information about Enterprise MediaWiki and about government use of MediaWiki that was new to me. Also, given Cindy's extensive experience with MediaWiki, I'm glad that WMF hired her to be the product manager for

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Annual report 2017 for MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group

2018-01-05 Thread Pine W
Forwarding to Wikitech-l and MediaWiki-l for the benefit of technical people who may be interested in this subject and not subscribed to the general WikimediaAnnounce-l. As has been the case for awhile, WikimediaAnnounce-l is not automatically forwarding to Wikimedia-l, so I'm forwarding this

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