Re: [Wikitech-l] Diff colors - a disaster waiting to happen

2011-12-22 Thread Russell Nelson
May I remind y'all that you are continuing to bikeshed. It's not that it doesn't matter, it's that a very small number of people care very very much. Speaking of a disaster that's already happening, if y'all don't move this conversation to wikicolors-yellow-blue-green-re...@lists.wikimedia.org,

Re: [Wikitech-l] irc bot

2011-12-17 Thread Russell Nelson
it :-) thank you for suggestion On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't care what language it is in. Learning a new language enough to do simple fixes and basic maintenance takes

Re: [Wikitech-l] irc bot

2011-12-16 Thread Russell Nelson
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't care what language it is in. Learning a new language enough to do simple fixes and basic maintenance takes a week or two. Who cares about what language its written in? It's written in Petr, which compiles English to

Re: [Wikitech-l] FileBackend branch

2011-12-01 Thread Russell Nelson
prefer not to copy them anywhere, those I suppose when things settle down there is less risk of bit rot if they are (maintenance would still be needed). Russell Nelson-3 wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Re: [Wikitech-l] FileBackend branch

2011-11-30 Thread Russell Nelson
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Aaron Schulz aschulz4...@gmail.com wrote: I'm starting to finish the initial coding for the FileBackend branch (see https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/FileBackend). I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Russell Nelson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: JB == Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com writes: JB http://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/11/please-read-a-personal-appeal-to-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/#comment-87364 Naw,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-20 Thread Russell Nelson
Perhaps we should keep the banner space there during the time of the fundraiser, and if the person requests to not see Jimmy, then show them Brandon. And if Brandon makes them unhappy (as if!), they could switch to seeing pretty panorama photos. I'll contribute this one:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coding Convention: Method chaining

2011-11-16 Thread Russell Nelson
What problem is solved by chaining? All I see here is cost for no benefit. On Nov 16, 2011 5:02 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Owen Davis o...@wikia-inc.com wrote: John Du Hart compwhizii at gmail.com writes: It's just another style I've

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overzealous Commons deletionists

2011-11-12 Thread Russell Nelson
There are a lot of problems with the activities of deletionists, starting with the assumption that somebody who contributes to W is an active W user, and is monitoring their contributions against the activities of deletionists. A lack of prompt response is taken as proof that their claim (no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overzealous Commons deletionists

2011-11-12 Thread Russell Nelson
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM, William Allen Simpson william.allen.simp...@gmail.com wrote: We need technical measures to prevent this from happening, or at least provide prompt warning that an administrator is running amok. Like what? Do we have a mechanism for this (I think we do but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overzealous Commons deletionists

2011-11-12 Thread Russell Nelson
go away and code seems dismissive ... particularly if there is no interest in installing the code. In economic terms, this is a coordination problem (which are the only interesting economic problems left). The WMF isn't going to commit to installing the code without seeing it first, and yet WAS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Overzealous Commons deletionists

2011-11-12 Thread Russell Nelson
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: But this is a social problem, by no means a technical one. I'm not sure I understand what your this refers to, but how to inform infrequent Wikipedia editors that their contribution is going to be deleted unless you

Re: [Wikitech-l] License exceptions in Wikimedia's repo

2011-11-08 Thread Russell Nelson
The FSF's theory of GPL inheritance is based on the idea that your code has only one purpose: to extend the capabilities of GPL'ed code. It has no other use or function. So, to distribute it under any other license is an attempt to create a collective work that violates the GPL. This case is

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia lacks a share' button

2011-10-29 Thread Russell Nelson
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: I don't like a share button. Tom It doesn't think much of you either. Would you share a like button? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] How du I upload images locally from an extension?

2011-10-27 Thread Russell Nelson
Look at ConfirmAccount or ConfirmEdit. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Leonard Wallentin leo_wallen...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all, sorry if this is a noobish question, but I get strange problems when trying to upload a newly generated image from within an extension. It's seems the title

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki unit testing and non-MySQL databases

2011-10-24 Thread Russell Nelson
Is there a way to tell Sqlite to be pickier about what it will accept? If it bombs out on anything that falls outside the union of (all supported database SQL), then just passing our tests should be sufficient, right? On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikipedia lacks a share' button

2011-10-21 Thread Russell Nelson
This sounds like something non-technical, like you would discuss at a village pump. Maybe you should do that and then get back to us with a greater variety of user opinions? If you're right and this is a dumb idea, then you'll save us a lot of time by canvassing users. -russ On Fri, Oct 21, 2011

Re: [Wikitech-l] File::getPath() refactoring

2011-10-21 Thread Russell Nelson
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: As Tim noted, the particular case in Special:Undelete is probably an example of old code using a lazy interface due to old assumptions, and should actually be changed to use a proper File reference, and have a method to

[Wikitech-l] File::getPath() refactoring

2011-10-19 Thread Russell Nelson
In order to support viewing deleted files (currently a blocker bug in SwiftMedia), I'm going to refactor File::getPath() into a new public function File::getLocalPath(), which will return an instance of a new class TempLocalPath, which will have two methods: getPath(), and close(). This class will

Re: [Wikitech-l] File::getPath() refactoring

2011-10-19 Thread Russell Nelson
platoni...@gmail.com wrote: El 19/10/11 21:41, Russell Nelson escribió: In order to support viewing deleted files (currently a blocker bug in SwiftMedia), I'm going to refactor File::getPath() into a new public function File::getLocalPath(), which will return an instance of a new class TempLocalPath

Re: [Wikitech-l] File::getPath() refactoring

2011-10-19 Thread Russell Nelson
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Russell Nelson wrote: This is needed because some code asks for a path to the file without having a File. For example SpecialUndelete::showFile(). Basically encapsulation punch-through. This is a clean-up. If you disagree

Re: [Wikitech-l] first mirror of most recent XML dumps, at C3SL in Brazil

2011-10-18 Thread Russell Nelson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: As the subject says, the first mirror of our XML dumps is up, hosted at C3Sl in BRazil. I have a bunch of people mirroring qmail.org. Would you like me to contact them and suggest that they mirror Wikipedia?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving tests post-1.18 deployment: We need acceptance tests!

2011-10-14 Thread Russell Nelson
I have a test using Twill that tests file uploads (reuploads deletes thumbnailing). Yeah, I know, Yet Another tool python not php, but the php space for scripted web browsers seemed thin relative to python, so I picked the best tool. It's checked into SwiftMedia, but works on a vanilla

Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: RFC: Refactor on File/FileRepo/MediaHandler? (Separation of concerns, portability)

2011-10-04 Thread Russell Nelson
work, hackathon, and Hackers Conference), between design, writing test cases, and coding. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Στις 03-10-2011, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 22:21 -0400, ο/η Russell Nelson έγραψε: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Brion Vibber br

Re: [Wikitech-l] FW: RFC: Refactor on File/FileRepo/MediaHandler? (Separation of concerns, portability)

2011-10-03 Thread Russell Nelson
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: I would *very* strongly recommend doing the internal refactoring before we get anywhere near reviewing and deploying that bad boy; otherwise we'll spend all the code review time pointing out things to refactor to avoid