Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-31 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi,There seems to be an issue with the extension: It seems when I saved a draft after editing a section, the draft was considered a draft of the corresponding section number (it was mentioned as "Article#Section name" in the list of drafts). If the given section was removed, clicking on this saved

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-21 Thread Platonides
Alex wrote: > A possible option would be to have a checkbox (probably on > Special:Drafts itself, to avoid cluttering the edit page and to avoid > accidental clicks) to mark drafts as public. This would be especially > useful when combined with bug 17067, the ability to create drafts of > protected

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-21 Thread Brion Vibber
On 1/20/09 3:14 PM, Platonides wrote: > Brion Vibber wrote: >> Client-side storage would be fantastic (and avoid unnecessary server >> round-trips). We discussed this in original planning but didn't get >> round to implementing it yet. > > I thought the rationale was to allow people to migrate brow

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Marco Schuster wrote: > What about Google Gears? Yeah, it's Google, but GG supports a variety > of browsers and we wouldn't have to wait for M$ to support it properly > in IE 20. IE8b2 already supports localStorage, from what I've heard, more or less according to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Schuster
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Platonides wrote: >> IMHO we still need some kind of saving into firefox >> storage, for cases like a read-only db. Instead of 'You can't save, the >> site is read-only'->'Save-draft'->'No, you can't, the db

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-21 Thread Jim Higson
wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote on 20/01/2009 18:10:47: > Brion Vibber schreef: > >>> Suggestions for improvements to the UI and workflow are always > >>> welcome! > >>> > >> Is there an API for getting/saving the draft edits? > > > > Not currently, but that'd be a great thing to ha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Alex
Brion Vibber wrote: > On 1/20/09 1:40 PM, Platonides wrote: >> They could benefit from drafts, but in that case better to do it on the >> browser itself. IMHO we still need some kind of saving into firefox >> storage, for cases like a read-only db. Instead of 'You can't save, the >> site is read-on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Chad
Yeah, get on that. We call it a feature...but it clearly doubles as a drama-generator for those communities prone to such antics. -Chad On Jan 20, 2009 6:35 PM, "David Gerard" wrote: 2009/1/20 Chad : > Vry bad idea. I can already see enwiki having > ArbCom cases about stuff someone wan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread David Gerard
2009/1/20 Chad : > Vry bad idea. I can already see enwiki having > ArbCom cases about stuff someone wanted to say but > didnt . No, no, this is a feature. The only way to fix en:wp is to cause the dramatic core to enter final meltdown and annihilate itself, then the people who write an e

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > Of course, we shouldn't be editing Wikipedia at work, should we? ;-) Hey, could be during lunch break. Not our business. ;) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://li

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On 1/20/09 1:40 PM, Platonides wrote: >> They could benefit from drafts, but in that case better to do it on the >> browser itself. IMHO we still need some kind of saving into firefox >> storage, for cases like a read-only db. Instead of 'You

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Platonides
Brion Vibber wrote: > Client-side storage would be fantastic (and avoid unnecessary server > round-trips). We discussed this in original planning but didn't get > round to implementing it yet. I thought the rationale was to allow people to migrate browsers. Still, choosing the kind of draft-savi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Chad
Vry bad idea. I can already see enwiki having ArbCom cases about stuff someone wanted to say but didnt . -Chad On Jan 20, 2009 5:50 PM, "Brion Vibber" wrote: On 1/20/09 1:40 PM, Platonides wrote: > They could benefit from drafts, but in that case better to d... Client-side storage would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Brion Vibber
On 1/20/09 1:40 PM, Platonides wrote: > They could benefit from drafts, but in that case better to do it on the > browser itself. IMHO we still need some kind of saving into firefox > storage, for cases like a read-only db. Instead of 'You can't save, the > site is read-only'->'Save-draft'->'No, yo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Platonides wrote: > I don't think it would be wise to add that for anonymous users. > People could be seeing drafts from other people and we would be unable > to assist or even verify reports of things that people see that their > coworkers are writing. So? > The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Trevor Parscal > wrote: >> Since the features of the extension are disabled for unregistered users >> already > > Is this a design decision, or just to simplify implementation? You > could use a cookie or something, but if you did that you'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote: > Since the features of the extension are disabled for unregistered users > already Is this a design decision, or just to simplify implementation? You could use a cookie or something, but if you did that you'd have to make sure Squid doesn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Trevor Parscal
It seems to me that the Drafts extension provides a neat feature with the potential to save data from being lost by accident in many cases. It also seems like adding a per-user setting to enable/disable it would be trivial and also useful for the few (or perhaps many) users who may find it wort

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
Brion Vibber schreef: > On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:15, Jim Higson wrote: > > >> wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote on 17/01/2009 00:38:38: >> >>> Suggestions for improvements to the UI and workflow are always >>> welcome! >>> >> Is there an API for getting/saving the draft ed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Brion Vibber
On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:15, Jim Higson wrote: > wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote on 17/01/2009 00:38:38: >> >> >> Suggestions for improvements to the UI and workflow are always >> welcome! > > > Is there an API for getting/saving the draft edits? Not currently, but that'd be a great

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-20 Thread Jim Higson
wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote on 17/01/2009 00:38:38: > Ok, things are finally starting to normalize as far as getting away from > fundraiser craziness, preparing regular releases, and generally getting > on with making things better for users! > > I've enabled the Drafts extens

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-19 Thread Brion Vibber
On 1/17/09 6:44 PM, Jackey Tse wrote: > can't save summary? Should work. Does it behave differently to what you expect? -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-18 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Marco Schuster wrote: > Yes, at least MySQL forces us to AFAIR. No, the sig is just part of user_options, which is a BLOB. However, we do validate the length in SpecialPreferences.php. > Anyway, you can bypass it by creating e.g. User:XY/sig.js and then put > {{

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-18 Thread Marco Schuster
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > do we actually validate that 255-char limit on the server side? Yes, at least MySQL forces us to AFAIR. Anyway, you can bypass it by creating e.g. User:XY/sig.js and then put {{subst:User:XY/sig.js}} in your signature field. Marco _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Soxred93 wrote: > After trying it out on testwikipedia, I am very impressed. This is a > feature I have long been waiting for, and it's finally a reality. :) > Is there an estimate as to when this may go live on WMF servers? > per brion in previous issues: "when

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Soxred93
After trying it out on testwikipedia, I am very impressed. This is a feature I have long been waiting for, and it's finally a reality. :) Is there an estimate as to when this may go live on WMF servers? Soxred93/X! On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:38 PM [Jan 16, 2009 ], Brion Vibber wrote: > Ok, things

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Although the problem could be avoided for drafts by using browser > local storage for the data, or requiring some cookie as a key. Which kind of kills the "save progress at home and continue at work" use-case, for no very good reason. I d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Great! Share a Wikipedia account with friends/conspirators/fellow > terrorists, and leave them secret messages on Wikipedia that only they > can read. And it will self-destruct after a month! I can see Jack > Bauer coming through the door in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Jackey Tse
can't save summary? 2009/1/18 Magnus Manske > Great! Share a Wikipedia account with friends/conspirators/fellow > terrorists, and leave them secret messages on Wikipedia that only they > can read. And it will self-destruct after a month! I can see Jack > Bauer coming through the door in 3, 2, 1.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-17 Thread Magnus Manske
Great! Share a Wikipedia account with friends/conspirators/fellow terrorists, and leave them secret messages on Wikipedia that only they can read. And it will self-destruct after a month! I can see Jack Bauer coming through the door in 3, 2, 1... ;-) Magnus On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Br

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-16 Thread Sylvain Brunerie
Very good idea! :) — Sylvain Brunerie [[w:fr:User:Delhovlyn]] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-16 Thread Brion Vibber
Ok, things are finally starting to normalize as far as getting away from fundraiser craziness, preparing regular releases, and generally getting on with making things better for users! I've enabled the Drafts extension for testing on http://test.wikipedia.org -- this little cutie was new staff