Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-31 Thread David Abián
Probably some of you can help with... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208315 (MediaWiki) ... or... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T208279 (Wikibase). These tasks seem feasible and uncontroversial. Thanks! -- David Abián ___ Wikitech-l mailin

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-30 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:35 PM Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Of course, it's more difficult to extend cascading protection to Wikidata > because Wikidata is a different wiki (even Commons images are not included > in cascading protection last time I checked). Neverthele

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 29.10.2018 um 23:34 schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: > And maybe—just maybe—getting blocked on one wiki could make one > automatically blocked on wikis that are common repositories, such as > Commons and Wikidata (and perhaps Meta), although this should be reversible. I like that idea, actually. It cou

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Including information from Wikidata in a page is not so different from transcluding a template. So in theory, protecting a page from vandalism through Wikidata should be similar to cascading protection, which exists in core and auto-protects images and transcluded templates on a page. In fact, mayb

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 29.10.18 um 7:29 nachm. schrieb Pine W: > I'm hesitant to support hiding information from readers, including links to > Wikidata. As an alternative to hiding information, could articles that are > semi-protected on Wikipedia (I assume that this refers to ENWP, but perhaps > it refers to other la

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
OK, so that makes at least two of us thinking along those lines. I suggest that you cross-post this discussion to the Wikidata email list to invite more people to participate in this discussion. Thanks for bringing up this subject for discussion. I am not fond of vandals. Pine ( https://meta.wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread David Abián
Vandalism mainly comes from es.wikipedia, but more Wikipedias are affected. What you suggest was proposed by Lydia at considering a threshold of N Wikipedias. El 29/10/18 a las 19:29, Pine W escribió: > I'm hesitant to support hiding information from r

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Pine W
I'm hesitant to support hiding information from readers, including links to Wikidata. As an alternative to hiding information, could articles that are semi-protected on Wikipedia (I assume that this refers to ENWP, but perhaps it refers to other languages also) automatically have semi-protection ap

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread David Abián
Hi, > I assume you would still want to show the link to users who actually > do have the right to edit. Yes, that's it. > How exactly could that be abused? CSS rules seem the best approach to me. First I thought on introducing something like `.myclass{display:none;}` in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 28.10.2018 um 22:53 schrieb David Abián: > We don't want to hide these links from everyone, just from non-confirmed > users. We could write CSS rules for certain user groups, but this can > bring undesired side effects like giving all users the possiblity of > hiding arbitrary content (e.g., van

Re: [Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-28 Thread nguyen dinh truong nguyen
Thank you, I think that it is vandalism of victor Charlie (slang in vn war) On 29 Oct 2018 04:53, "David Abián" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sending this email to request your help with... > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207648 > > We don't want non-confirmed users to see links from semiprotected

[Wikitech-l] If users can't edit an article, don't encourage them to edit its Wikidata item

2018-10-28 Thread David Abián
Hi, I'm sending this email to request your help with... https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207648 We don't want non-confirmed users to see links from semiprotected Wikipedia articles to their corresponding Wikidata items. This is a well-known source of vandalism (and bad press) that is seriously