Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On 8/31/09 1:12 PM, Ilmari Karonen wrote: > Platonides wrote: >> You get a request for page Foo:Bar. It could be a page name, or Foo >> could mean Special in Bantu. How do you check (efficiently) over 300 >> languages? > > With array_key_exists(), surely? It's (AFAIK) a (nearly) constant-time > ha

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Ilmari Karonen
Platonides wrote: > Aryeh Gregor wrote: >> Tangentially, is there any actual reason we couldn't allow any >> language's alias (e.g., for special page names or namespaces) to work >> in any other language? We'd have to make sure we have a moderately >> sane way of resolving conflicts, but those sho

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Platonides wrote: > They still are a lot of languages? Why is that a problem, exactly? > There might be ugly cases of or other tag extensions inside [[ > getting a different behavior. is handled before links are, so it will behave the same as now. Actually, d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Platonides wrote: >> Special page names are better in the sense that you know what it is >> offhand, but i'm not sure if such search is still acceptable. > > Why not? I can't think of any problems. They still are a lot of languages? >> I d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Platonides wrote: > Special page names are better in the sense that you know what it is > offhand, but i'm not sure if such search is still acceptable. Why not? I can't think of any problems. > I don't think it'd get too much support. Maybe, but substantive obje

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-31 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Platonides wrote: >> You get a request for page Foo:Bar. It could be a page name, or Foo >> could mean Special in Bantu. How do you check (efficiently) over 300 >> languages? > > Ouch. Okay, that's out for namespaces. It should work fine for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Platonides wrote: > You get a request for page Foo:Bar. It could be a page name, or Foo > could mean Special in Bantu. How do you check (efficiently) over 300 > languages? Ouch. Okay, that's out for namespaces. It should work fine for special page names, though,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: > Tangentially, is there any actual reason we couldn't allow any > language's alias (e.g., for special page names or namespaces) to work > in any other language? We'd have to make sure we have a moderately > sane way of resolving conflicts, but those should be extremely > uncom

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Marcus Buck wrote: > But that would be inconsistent with us localising special page names > which too appear in URLs only. Special page names also appear in the title of the page when you view it, which is a very visible location. And on Special:AllPages, and prob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On 8/30/09 8:08 PM, Happy-melon wrote: > "Marcus Buck" wrote in message > news:4a9aee20.7000...@marcusbuck.org... >> But that would be inconsistent with us localising special page names >> which too appear in URLs only. So in my opinion they should be localized. > > Not true: special page names ar

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Happy-melon
"Marcus Buck" wrote in message news:4a9aee20.7000...@marcusbuck.org... > But that would be inconsistent with us localising special page names > which too appear in URLs only. So in my opinion they should be localized. Not true: special page names are localised in the JS variables (wgPageName, f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Marcus Buck
Aryeh Gregor hett schreven: > The parameter in the URL currently must be an exact match for the name > of the group. Group names are normally short, lowercase, ASCII, > alphabetic English names that are consistent across wikis. You can > think of them like numbers, as if the URL were > /w/index.p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima wrote: > Does anybody knows why the link > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/autoreviewer > makes the target page to have the box on the right filled with > "Autoreviewers" and shows only the users in that group, while using

[Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima
Hello! Does anybody knows why the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/autoreviewer makes the target page to have the box on the right filled with "Autoreviewers" and shows only the users in that group, while using a translated name at pt.wikipedia, like http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Links to Special:ListUsers/...

2009-08-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/8/30 Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima : > Hello! > > Does anybody knows why the link > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers/autoreviewer > makes the target page to have the box on the right filled with > "Autoreviewers" and shows only the users in that group, while using a > translated n