Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-25 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Aryeh Gregor wrote: When I load their homepage, the formulas don't appear for about two seconds of 100% CPU usage, on Firefox 4b9.  And that's for two small formulas.  I'm not impressed.  IMO, the correct way forward is to

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-24 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com wrote: I used to think that too. Then I looked at the examples on the wiki page on the issue. Although I find TeX rather opaque, a much worst issue is obscurity through verbosity, which not only makes the formula

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-24 Thread Maury Markowitz
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: We'd be talking about translating LaTeX input to MathML output automatically here -- no MathML input in the wikitext. Ahhh, I get it. And yes, that does make sense to me.

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-23 Thread Maury Markowitz
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: When I load their homepage, the formulas don't appear for about two seconds of 100% CPU usage, on Firefox 4b9.  And that's for two small formulas. Works OK in Safari. WebKit perhaps?  I'm not impressed.  IMO,

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-23 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: When I load their homepage, the formulas don't appear for about two seconds of 100% CPU usage, on Firefox 4b9. And that's for two small formulas. I'm not impressed. IMO, the correct way forward is to work on native MathML support -- Gecko and WebKit both support it these

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: The ideal solution for Wikipedia would be to move to a system in which users with relatively modern browsers don't see images at all. There is already a candidate for that system: MathJax.  This has extensive browser

[Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Maury Markowitz
I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending on user preferences and the complexity of the expression. Consider the formulas here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending on user preferences and the complexity of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com 2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Carl (CBM)
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: You can force  png rendering both by preferences and by code. But what's more interesting is the use of badly documented \scriptstyle TeX tag, which generates a much smaller and less invasive display of pngs: The use of

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Maury Markowitz
Wow, thanks for the pointer Carl, MathJax is impressive. Alex, your work is appreciated, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm seeing. Can you point me in the right direction to read up a bit more? Maury ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com Wow, thanks for the pointer Carl, MathJax is impressive. Alex, your work is appreciated, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm seeing. Can you point me in the right direction to read up a bit more? Don't care, throw away my suggestions