Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
They are happy to foul up the entire standard. I feel there is little
to no benefit to us in trying to imply that the situation is
otherwise.
First of all, Apple is not fouling up the entire standard.
This is really a foundation / wikimedia community question. ... I will
do a short email to foundation-l summarizing the technical discussion.
Not that foundation-l has historically been the best way to build
consensus but maybe someone else can summarize that discussion and give
us a ball-park
2009/7/9 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
I advocate a simply: You can [[install X]] to get native support. [[More
info]]
What do we do for iPhone users? They do not have Theora support
because Apple has actively decided it will not support it; we can
either appear to be defective, or we can
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:23 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/9 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
I advocate a simply: You can [[install X]] to get native support. [[More
info]]
What do we do for iPhone users? They do not have Theora support
because Apple has actively decided
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Platonidesplatoni...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think we should phrase it like a better experience, or you
better use X. That's too much used.
The user will say I am using Internet Viewer 8000, there's no way this
advanced browser failt to show it, it's their
2009/7/9 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Assuming that native support really is noticeably better. Maybe we
could only suggest it if we detect that the playback is stuttering, or
suggest it more prominently if we detect that. I assume Cortado can
detect that. Are there
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/9 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Assuming that native support really is noticeably better. Maybe we
could only suggest it if we detect that the playback is stuttering, or
suggest it more prominently if
2009/7/9 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/9 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Assuming that native support really is noticeably better. Maybe we
could only suggest it if we detect that the playback is
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Marco
Schusterma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org wrote:
We should not recommend Chrome - as good as it is, but it has serious
privacy problems.
Opera is not Open Source, so I think we'd best stay with Firefox, even if
Chrome/Opera begin to support video tag.
I don't
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Aryeh
Gregorsimetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Marco
Schusterma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org wrote:
We should not recommend Chrome - as good as it is, but it has serious
privacy problems.
Opera is not Open Source, so I think we'd
Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
For the moment there is also a technical problem with Safari 4: It
claims (via the canPlayType() call) that it can't support Ogg even
when XiphQT is installed. We currently work around this by detecting
the mime-type registration which happens as part
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
Not every decision is a purely technical. Mozilla has done a lot to
support the development of this functionality. Putting other browser
developers on equal footing is not an neutral decision either.
I think the most
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
Uh, it's not a good option for Wikimedia video.
With XiphQT, why not? Maybe not ideal, but surely good.
And, more importantly, it's not a good option for Wikimedia video
because Apple has *deliberately chosen to make it not
2009/7/8 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
Uh, it's not a good option for Wikimedia video.
With XiphQT, why not? Maybe not ideal, but surely good.
As Greg has noted, due to a bug in Safari it's impossible for
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/8 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
Uh, it's not a good option for Wikimedia video.
With XiphQT, why not? Maybe not ideal, but surely
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
They are happy to foul up the entire standard. I feel there is little
to no benefit to us in trying to imply that the situation is
otherwise.
First of all, Apple is not fouling up the entire standard. They
employ one of its
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