Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread David Gerard
Are there any plans for per-country geolocated banners? (I realise we have only 22 hours.) Things like saying Contact [name of ministry in your country] rather than expecting people to look these up themselves. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: When the Italians did their blackout, Google asked us to block them (!) from bits.wm.o (our JS/CSS domain), which in the specific case of the Italian blackout had the effect of not honoring the blackout at all. I'm

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Dan Collins
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: When the Italians did their blackout, Google asked us to block them (!) from bits.wm.o (our JS/CSS domain), which in the specific case of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Tei
On 16 January 2012 02:31, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The question becomes: how will this be implemented? I assume some kind of CentralNotice banner with some CSS absolute positioning or something? Is that right?

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: *cough* USA can take over hostnames .com from other countries. Then blackout the frontpage of these websites with this image: http://rojadirecta.com/IPRC_Seized_2011_02_NY.gif

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Bergi
Is it possible to remove the banner at the statement/explanation/discussion pages? E.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protest_gegen_SOPA looks odd with two banners, considering both the same thing. Bergi ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-17 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Bergi a.d.be...@web.de wrote: Is it possible to remove the banner at the statement/explanation/discussion pages? E.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protest_gegen_SOPA looks odd with two banners, considering both the same thing.  Bergi Well, my

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-16 Thread Platonides
On 16/01/12 06:49, Ryan Kaldari wrote: On the issue of cookies, that is actually a tricky detail to implement. Right now, if you have the cookie set to hide CentralNotice banners, it will not show you the blackout (or any other banners). I was thinking we could work around this by adding some

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-16 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Good idea. I'll do both just to be safe. Ryan Kaldari On 1/16/12 2:40 PM, Platonides wrote: On 16/01/12 06:49, Ryan Kaldari wrote: On the issue of cookies, that is actually a tricky detail to implement. Right now, if you have the cookie set to hide CentralNotice banners, it will not show you

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-16 Thread Dan Collins
So, is anything interesting going to happen when Google suddenly realizes that all of our pages are nothing but a SOPA banner? -- Dan On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Good idea. I'll do both just to be safe. Ryan Kaldari On 1/16/12 2:40 PM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com wrote: So, is anything interesting going to happen when Google suddenly realizes that all of our pages are nothing but a SOPA banner? When the Italians did their blackout, Google asked us to block them (!) from bits.wm.o (our

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The question becomes: how will this be implemented? I assume some kind of CentralNotice banner with some CSS absolute positioning or something? Is that right? Or will it be part of a separate extension? What's currently

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Tim Starling
On 15/01/12 06:33, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. Skimming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action, it seems inevitable that some kind of banner (or blackout banner, which is apparently equivalent to an extra-large banner) will be implemented. The question becomes: how will

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: The question becomes: how will this be implemented? I assume some kind of CentralNotice banner with some CSS absolute positioning or something? Is that right? Or will it be part of a separate extension?

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Ryan Lane
I don't think Wikimedia ops can be complicit in turning off editing like that. Ops operates under the exact opposite goal, doesn't it? To ensure that the site is continually running, accessible, functioning as much as humanly possible? I was under the impression that any SOPA-related action

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Krinkle
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 15/01/12 06:33, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. Skimming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action , it seems inevitable that some kind of banner (or blackout banner, which is apparently

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Tim Starling
On 16/01/12 13:00, MZMcBride wrote: I don't think Wikimedia ops can be complicit in turning off editing like that. Ops operates under the exact opposite goal, doesn't it? To ensure that the site is continually running, accessible, functioning as much as humanly possible? Whatever their goals,

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Tim Starling
On 16/01/12 13:30, Krinkle wrote: The default behavior taken with central notices is a close button which will set a cookie. Once the cookie is set, the banner is no longer shown. The soft blackout option on WP:SOPA has only 74 support votes (30 oppose), compared to 519 support votes (77

Re: [Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-15 Thread Ryan Kaldari
As it looks like we will most likely be using CentralNotice for the blackout (for a variety of reasons - easy scheduling, geotargeting, caching, doesn't interfere with site indexing by Google, etc.), you will likely be able to bypass the blackout simply by turning off Javascript. There has

[Wikitech-l] SOPA banner implementation

2012-01-14 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. Skimming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action, it seems inevitable that some kind of banner (or blackout banner, which is apparently equivalent to an extra-large banner) will be implemented. The question becomes: how will this be implemented? I assume some kind of