Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Chad
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 12:55 AM Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Alchimista > wrote: > > Llegoktm already pointed that there are no entries on CentralAuth, > since > > the wiki was shut down on 2011 / 2012, is there any other places to > check? > > Content of every row o

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Chad
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:59 AM Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Chad wrote: > > > Interwiki link existence isn't checked or tracked. File stuff isn't a > > problem (since ptwikimedia wasn't a central repo & existed prior to > > GlobalUsage being a thing). Cross-wiki notifi

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Chad
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:09 AM Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Chad wrote: > > Well looks like nobody else is going to do it, so sure. > > > > -Chad > > It is always nice to see deployment issues being handled by deployment > people. > > It helps that I'm a jack of all tr

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Jaime Crespo
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Chad wrote: > Interwiki link existence isn't checked or tracked. File stuff isn't a > problem (since ptwikimedia wasn't a central repo & existed prior to > GlobalUsage being a thing). Cross-wiki notifications didn't exist either. > Banners? Doesn't make sense. Pre

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Jaime Crespo
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Alchimista wrote: > Llegoktm already pointed that there are no entries on CentralAuth, since > the wiki was shut down on 2011 / 2012, is there any other places to check? Content of every row of every other database that references ptwikimedia through links, noti

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Alchimista
If pt2.wikimedia should be used in last resource, can't the current db content be exported, and the db cleaned to be used again like sugested before? Exported content could be imported to a new db, lets say, pt.wikimedia.org_old. Is this feasible? Llegoktm already pointed that there are no ent

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-19 Thread Jaime Crespo
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Chad wrote: > Well looks like nobody else is going to do it, so sure. > > -Chad It is always nice to see deployment issues being handled by deployment people. -- Jaime Crespo ___ Wikitech-l mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-03 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
You should just name it pt2wikimedia. We already have databases that don't match domain names and they're fine. -- Bartosz Dziewoński ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-03 Thread Alex Monk
It's not clear to me either. No, and I don't feel like I should make this (irreversible) decision. Sorry. On 3 March 2016 at 20:15, Waldir Pimenta wrote: > Well, the conversation stalled in a way that made it unclear (to me at > least) who can decide what option to choose (rename the db, if that

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-03 Thread Waldir Pimenta
Well, the conversation stalled in a way that made it unclear (to me at least) who can decide what option to choose (rename the db, if that's at all viable, or start a new wiki using pt2wikimedia, if that's acceptable, or something else). Is there anything we from Wikimedia Portugal can do or say to

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-03 Thread Alex Monk
I'm not sure what you're expecting, Alchimista. I haven't received any extra emails on the subject beyond those from the Phabricator task and those on this list. On 3 March 2016 at 11:34, Alchimista wrote: > Any update on this? > > 2016-02-24 18:39 GMT+00:00 Legoktm : > > > Hi, > > > > On 02/24/

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-03-03 Thread Alchimista
Any update on this? 2016-02-24 18:39 GMT+00:00 Legoktm : > Hi, > > On 02/24/2016 06:18 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > > Given most of the useful data/history has been exported, I would suggest > > to rename on WMF cluster the ptwikimedia DB to something like > > ptwikimedia_old or even just archive a

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 02/24/2016 06:18 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Given most of the useful data/history has been exported, I would suggest > to rename on WMF cluster the ptwikimedia DB to something like > ptwikimedia_old or even just archive a dump of it and drop it. > > Then create a new ptwikimedia and import

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 11:09 AM, John wrote: > I dont want to come across as a dick, but renaming this wiki shouldn't be > overly difficult. Worst case you dump the database and re-import under a > new name. Since this is a non-active wiki all of the normal overhead isnt > there. yes, it should

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread John
I dont want to come across as a dick, but renaming this wiki shouldn't be overly difficult. Worst case you dump the database and re-import under a new name. Since this is a non-active wiki all of the normal overhead isnt there. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Chad wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 20

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Chad
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:23 AM Jaime Crespo wrote: > > I would suggest > > to rename on WMF cluster the ptwikimedia DB to something like > > ptwikimedia_old > > If you want this, I hope the users will have the patience to wait for > when the renaming wikis bug will be solved in 2034. > > Or, you

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Jaime Crespo
> I would suggest > to rename on WMF cluster the ptwikimedia DB to something like > ptwikimedia_old If you want this, I hope the users will have the patience to wait for when the renaming wikis bug will be solved in 2034. Or, you know, we can create *now* a new wiki with a new name that most user

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 24/02/2016 14:56, Waldir Pimenta a écrit : > Assuming there's no easy way to merge the databases, we are fine with > dropping the old db. I believe most content was imported to the current > wiki at the time of the migration, see > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T25537. An xml dump was used,

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread Waldir Pimenta
Assuming there's no easy way to merge the databases, we are fine with dropping the old db. I believe most content was imported to the current wiki at the time of the migration, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T25537. An xml dump was used, not an SQL one, so I suppose stuff like logs may not h

Re: [Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-24 Thread This, that and the other
Why not just delete the old ptwikimedia site and put the new one in its place, using the same dbname? The old wiki is inaccessible, since pt.wikimedia.org redirects offsite, so it's unclear if the old DB even needs to be preserved. And presumably any configuration bits that refer to ptwikimedi

[Wikitech-l] pt.wikimedia.org - database naming

2016-02-23 Thread Alex Monk
Hi all, A request has come up (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126832) to re-create pt.wikimedia.org on the wikimedia cluster. Unfortunately it was previously hosted there and so the 'ptwikimedia' database name is already taken. Since database renaming does not really appear to be an option, do