Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Jim White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your "efforts" don't add value to it either. All you trying to do, is create another poor quality software that whole world just can't get rid of. If you so much like to have bad quality patches, why don't you start your own repository, and grant "patch ac

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Mike McCormack
The current process is crippling this project, limiting the developer base and reducing community value. Without some healthy dissent it will never change and get better. I am a friend of change, a true believer in the process of continuous improvement. I believe one day, the WIne project w

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Jim White
Steven Edwards wrote: > What you and others are asking for is the right to add broken hacks for > the sake of user experience. > ... I didn't ask for anything and I said I don't think WineHQ is even able to change this process. Misconstruing the words, intent, and plain meaning expressed by peo

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-22 Thread n0dalus
On 9/23/06, Robert Lunnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Publish the patch acceptance policy - Make sure this is the acceptance policy and not the patch acceptance process. The Patch acceptance policy should be developed by community process and be subject to change (and change control). Perhaps

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Steven Edwards
Hi Jim,On 9/22/06, Jim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steven cited the business at Wineconf of Alexandre never being "provedwrong on a technical matter".  Another straw man.  The part ofAlexandre's patch process that is the root of this conflict between Wine development-focused developers vs. Win

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Evil Jay
Scott Ritchie wrote: > Yup, that's the bug I ran into last time I tried. > > And by "install all prereqs", what exactly do you mean? > build-essentials, asound, Fontforge, Freetype, etc Any package that the configure script indicates might be missing. I wish I could say exactly which ones

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Evil Jay
Scott Ritchie wrote: > Yup, that's the bug I ran into last time I tried. > > And by "install all prereqs", what exactly do you mean? > build-essentials, asound, Fontforge, Freetype, etc Any package that the configure script indicates might be missing. I wish I could say exactly which ones

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Jim White
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Robert Lunnon wrote: > >>>Getting feedback isn't always easy, so listen when you get it. >>> >>>If you don't want to go to the effort required to get your patches into >>>Alexandre's tree, they're not going to get in themselves. >>> >>>Mike >> >>Rubbish, >> The curr

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-22 Thread Steven Edwards
Hello Robert,I am an employee of CodeWeavers and one of the former project coordinators of the ReactOS Project though my views do not represent either the position of my employer or the ReactOS Project of which I am no longer actively affiliated. This thread was part of the reason I wanted to chair

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Robert Lunnon wrote: >> Getting feedback isn't always easy, so listen when you get it. >> >> If you don't want to go to the effort required to get your patches into >> Alexandre's tree, they're not going to get in themselves. >> >> Mike > > Rubbish, > The current process is crippling this pr

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-22 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Jeff Latimer wrote: >> And exactly this information should probably be stated in the >> wine-patches subscription welcome mail. >> >> "If for some reason the Wine patches you submit fail to get applied, >> then we'd appreciate you taking the effort of submitting your current >> patch >> as a new it

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Scott Ritchie
Yup, that's the bug I ran into last time I tried. And by "install all prereqs", what exactly do you mean? Thanks, Scott Ritchie On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 18:44 -0500, Evil Jay wrote: > I can compile it fine on Kubuntu AMD64, except for font support > (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6243 ).

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Evil Jay
I can compile it fine on Kubuntu AMD64, except for font support (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6243 ). Just download the latest CVS or git, install all pre-reqs then ./configure && make depend && sudo make install. -J Scott Ritchie wrote: > I haven't been able to get Wine to build on

Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread Tomas Carnecky
James Courtier-Dutton wrote: I have place some documentation on the ALSA wiki site: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=ALSAresampler It tries to explain the constraints that the current ALSA resampler works under. You might like to read it as I think it will have impact on

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Thursday 21 September 2006 07:09, Dr J A Gow wrote: > After having followed this thread for some time, I feel that there is an > aspect that is often missed in the debate. > > As I see it, it would appear that Wine contributors fall into essentially > two camps. There are those who develop Wine

Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Tomas Carnecky wrote: My ultimate goal was to solve the dsound underruns which were so horrible that I had to disable sound in World of Warcraft. While I managed to get the sound working flawlessly (really... I never heard such clear sound under wine) in WoW, it required WoW-specific hacks so

Re: wined3d/CopyRects bug fix

2006-09-22 Thread Christopher GAUTIER
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > Am Montag 18 September 2006 10:12 schrieb Christopher GAUTIER: > > I've identified a bug in IWineD3DDeviceImpl_CopyRects. When CopyRects() > > is called to copy the source entirely into the destination surface, and > > that the sizes matches, a plain m

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Scott Ritchie
I haven't been able to get Wine to build on AMD64 at all, even using the 3+ different howto's I've seen. This is why there still is no AMD64 package. Seriously, if someone gets it working, update the wiki page and post here. Thanks, Scott Ritchie On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 16:04 -0400, Gerald Britt

Re: Governance revisited

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Thursday 21 September 2006 04:25, Mike McCormack wrote: > Robert Lunnon wrote: > > Which you are entitled to, but my opinion happens to differ. Whether the > > wine core source has all the patches, (Which it doesn't - many, but not > > all) isn't relevant, it's the process that they go through

Re: Governance revisited (Wineconf report)

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Thursday 21 September 2006 03:48, Jeremy White wrote: > >>Wine works fine as-is in my opinion ;) > > > > Which you are entitled to, but my opinion happens to differ. Whether the > > wine core source has all the patches, (Which it doesn't - many, but not > > all) isn't relevant, it's the process

Re: compiling wine for amd64

2006-09-22 Thread Gerald Britton
OK -- I did all that stuff, but the build failed. note, I used the command sudo apt-get --build source wine as per the page http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb below are the error messages from the build. the weird thing is I DO haev libdl.s0.2: $ls -l /lib32/libdl.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 roo

Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Tomas Carnecky wrote: My ultimate goal was to solve the dsound underruns which were so horrible that I had to disable sound in World of Warcraft. While I managed to get the sound working flawlessly (really... I never heard such clear sound under wine) in WoW, it required WoW-specific hacks so

Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread Hiji
Keep us posted. I'm interested in getting better support for audio recording under Wine. Hiji - Original Message From: Tomas Carnecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wine-devel@winehq.org Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:34:14 AM Subject: Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks Tomas Carnecky wrote:

Call for Installer Bugs...

2006-09-22 Thread Dan Kegel
Lots of progress has been made in fixing installer bugs lately, but there are probably many such bugs hiding in plain view still. It would be very helpful if people could look for bugs which: a) appear to be MSI or setupapi related, and b) occur in freely downloadable executables (e.g. trial versi

Re: [RPCRT4] support for RPC TCP servers

2006-09-22 Thread Jan Zerebecki
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:04:40PM +0100, Robert Shearman wrote: > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >Changelog: > >* Makes RPCRT4 use Winsock2 instead of native sockets (needed for > >event object support) > >* Adds support for TCP (ncacn_ip_tcp protocol) servers > > I appreciate your attempt at solving

Re: my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread Tomas Carnecky
Tomas Carnecky wrote: I'm fairly sure this all could be done in a WoW-independent way, eg. configure the hardware as the application requests it (by passing LPCDSBUFFERDESC to the low-level driver etc) and keeping track of the read/write positions could also be done in a better way. A small

Re: DDraw: Don't destroy complex attached surfaces even if explicitely requested as they will be liquidated anyway when the root is destroyed.

2006-09-22 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
Elie Morisse wrote: > A new version of my refcounting patch, lighter and honoring Stefan Dösinger > proposal. You forgot to attach the patch. bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 Sr. Network EngineerFax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH

Re: [RPCRT4] support for RPC TCP servers

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Shearman
Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Changelog: * Makes RPCRT4 use Winsock2 instead of native sockets (needed for event object support) * Adds support for TCP (ncacn_ip_tcp protocol) servers I appreciate your attempt at solving this hard problem, but I don't believe this is the right approach. Using winsoc

my dsound/winealsa hacks

2006-09-22 Thread Tomas Carnecky
My ultimate goal was to solve the dsound underruns which were so horrible that I had to disable sound in World of Warcraft. While I managed to get the sound working flawlessly (really... I never heard such clear sound under wine) in WoW, it required WoW-specific hacks so my patch will never mak

Re: msi: update target file paths on MsiSetTargetPath (for TARGETDIR)

2006-09-22 Thread James Hawkins
On 9/21/06, Andrey Turkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MsiSetTargetPath can be used to change target path for directory after CostFinalize, and all affected file paths must be recalculated. James Hawkins sent a patch to make Wine's MSI engine do it for most cases; this patch fixes one remaining "co