Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:19:36PM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: Personally I think that keeping a full alternative dcache in userspace isn't the right approach. I think we could bear the hit of something that keeps O(number_of_directories) memory, but not O(number_of_files). The lack of a

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Tridgell
I should also say that if the WineConf agenda doesn't have enough room for us to complete our Wine-Samba discussions, then I'd like to invite any Wine developers who would like to continue the discussion to come to the SambaXP conference which takes place directly after WineConf just a few hours

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Tridgell
Dimitrie, Speaking of which, both Samba and Wine suffer from the lack of support of cases-insensitivness in the kernel. Now, I'm not suggesting that we should push for that (I'm aware of the past discussions on LKML, and I must agree with Linus), but we should push for *something* that's

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Tridgell
Steven, Finally, if we have time, I'd like to discuss cooperation on IDL files and MSRPC interfaces. Yes I would like to discuss this as well. Eirc Kohl has made quite a lot of changes to WIDL for ReactOS to support our MSRPC and PLug and Pray implementation and I would like to see

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Tridgell
Dimi, - for mixed directories, Win32 names will appear lowercase to posix programs, but will be case preserving to Wine/Samba. Wine/Samba This is something I don't really like: to change the filename's case behind user's back. From my POV, it's not acceptable. I know I'd be

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 08:57:58PM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: In each case I will be trying to encourage methods which can store the full NTFS semantics, rather than limiting ourselves to only the things that fit natually in posix filesystems. I'm guessing we will

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Tridgell
Dimi, I understand that, but I'd certainly fall into the minority of Samba users then. I share my /home/dimi directory via Samba to my laptop, there's no way I want my filenames modified by the system. Existing filenames, and names that are crated by posix don't get modified of course. By

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-04 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:19 +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: Unfortunately it doesn't really help with case-insensitivity, as it is a non-blocking async interface, so the listeners get told way too late. Plus you have to have every directory open that you want to monitor, which would get silly.

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-03 Thread Andrew Tridgell
Brian, I think a full agenda would be about 11 items. If you would like to present something let me know - there's definitely space available. I'd like to present something on the way Samba4 stores the extra NTFS meta-data in posix filesystems (streams, NT ACLs, DOS attributes, extra

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-03 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 08:57:58PM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: In each case I will be trying to encourage methods which can store the full NTFS semantics, rather than limiting ourselves to only the things that fit natually in posix filesystems. I'm guessing we will have some lively

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Kegel
Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 08:57:58PM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: In each case I will be trying to encourage methods which can store the full NTFS semantics, rather than limiting ourselves to only the things that fit natually in posix filesystems. I'm guessing we will have

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-03 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:08:42AM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: I have a proposed solution for that which needs no kernel modifications. I have been meaning to write this up properly, so if you like I can do that for WineConf. I think it would be very good to have such a discution. It seems

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-03 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 11:51:02AM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: It only changes the name from the point of view of posix. The name is completely preserved from the point of view of Wine/Samba. I can still understand this annoying some people, but I don't think it would annoy the majority of

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-01 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Brian Vincent wrote: I think a full agenda would be about 11 items. If you would like to present something let me know - there's definitely space available. If you've been wondering, There's a neat project I'd like to do if I could only get a few more people interested, well, this is the perfect

RE: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-01 Thread Charles W. Stevenson
Title: RE: WineConf Agenda In presenting the commercial value of wine and why we chose to use it, etc. How much time do I have for the presentation? -Original Message- From: Jakob Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-01 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 10:31:33PM -0700, Brian Vincent wrote: I'm going to start this off with a huge apology - there's a very real chance I've asked someone to do a presentation and it's not on this list. If so, you need to email me to remind me. If you were definitely planning on

Re: WineConf Agenda

2005-04-01 Thread Steven Edwards
Hi, On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 02:20, Jakob Eriksson wrote: 2) What's almost never been brought up on wine-devel is the unit testing in the XP sense. The problem is you need to write a stub interface for all of the functions the function or library you are testing due to all the cross-calls win32

WineConf Agenda

2005-03-29 Thread Brian Vincent
I'm going to start this off with a huge apology - there's a very real chance I've asked someone to do a presentation and it's not on this list. If so, you need to email me to remind me. If you were definitely planning on presenting something because I emailed you, let me know - there's lots of

Wineconf Agenda

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Brian Vincent wrote: I PS - still looking for ideas for the agenda, if you have any, let me know. Also let me know if you'd like to present something. Apart from all of Wine, I'm always interested in the conformance testing. I believe it's crucial in speeding up Wines' development. For each bug

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Paul Millar wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:33, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Apart from all of Wine, I'm always interested in the conformance testing. I believe it's crucial in speeding up Wines' development. For each bug found, it is often a good idea to write an automatic regression test.

wineconf agenda

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Brian Vincent wrote: PS - still looking for ideas for the agenda, if you have any, let me know. Also let me know if you'd like to present something. Will anyone demo CXtest? I think it would be great. http://www.cxtest.org/ regards, Jakob

Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Paul Millar
On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:33, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Apart from all of Wine, I'm always interested in the conformance testing. I believe it's crucial in speeding up Wines' development. For each bug found, it is often a good idea to write an automatic regression test. Yes, although that's a

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Ivan Leo Puoti
Jakob Eriksson wrote: Maybe one could script something up so that a commit to tests CVS would not be *possible* without a confirmed test pass on Windows 95, NT, 2000 and XP. That would be very hard to do and mostly pointless for drivers. Ivan.

Re: wineconf agenda

2005-03-17 Thread Jeremy White
Will anyone demo CXtest? I think it would be great. http://www.cxtest.org/ I think that's one of those topics that Brian is holding in reserve; we'll be more than happy to demo it. Jer

Re: wineconf agenda

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 08:35:25AM -0600, Jeremy White wrote: Will anyone demo CXtest? I think it would be great. http://www.cxtest.org/ I think that's one of those topics that Brian is holding in reserve; we'll be more than happy to demo it. Nice stuff! Will you have decided by

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Paul Millar
On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:54, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Maybe one could script something up so that a commit to tests CVS would not be *possible* without a confirmed test pass on Windows 95, NT, 2000 and XP. That'd be the best thing since sliced bread. CVS supports doing some server-side

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Ivan Leo Puoti wrote: Jakob Eriksson wrote: Maybe one could script something up so that a commit to tests CVS would not be *possible* without a confirmed test pass on Windows 95, NT, 2000 and XP. That would be very hard to do and mostly pointless for drivers. Sometimes hard is worthwile. At

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Paul Millar
On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:51, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Paul Millar wrote: [writing tests]'s a rather weary job, which no one enjoys doing :^/ I do! Maybe I have a condition, but I really love doing it! :-) Long may that continue! [...] [separate CVS tree] This makes sense. Winetest

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Paul Millar wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:51, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Paul Millar wrote: [writing tests]'s a rather weary job, which no one enjoys doing :^/ I do! Maybe I have a condition, but I really love doing it! :-) Long may that continue! Thanks, I hope so too! :-)

Re: wineconf agenda

2005-03-17 Thread Oliver Stieber
A bit OT, well kinda. I'm trying to stabilize offscreen rendering in DirectX 9, I know Jason was thinking of doing a demo. Is there going to be another wine release before wine conf so I can merge DirectX and do you still plan to do a demo Jason, if so what are you time-lines for something

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Ouch. Of course, should have thought of that. Maybe we need a patch penguin? CVS actually handles 'vendor branches' fairly nicely. It should be possible for Jakob (or whoever else decides to be the 'test penguin') to maintain his own 'testing' CVS

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Paul Millar wrote: On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:54, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Maybe one could script something up so that a commit to tests CVS would not be *possible* without a confirmed test pass on Windows 95, NT, 2000 and XP. That'd be the best thing since sliced bread. CVS supports doing some

Re: Enhancing winetest infrastructure [WAS: Wineconf agenda]

2005-03-17 Thread Jakob Eriksson
C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Ouch. Of course, should have thought of that. Maybe we need a patch penguin? CVS actually handles 'vendor branches' fairly nicely. It should be possible for Jakob (or whoever else decides to be the 'test penguin') to maintain

WineConf agenda ideas

2005-02-25 Thread Brian Vincent
Over the the past week or so I've harassed some folks about the agenda for WineConf. At this point there's a lot that remains to be filled in, but I need some feedback. Also, I need more ideas for presentations. Does anyone want to present something? It'd be great if someone would