Re: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection

2007-06-05 Thread JohnnyO
Comments inline - Original Message - From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection The alton-moore site seems to think that Rohn25 sections don't weigh anything. He said he has

Re: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection

2007-06-05 Thread JohnnyO
37lbs for Rohn25 .. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection The alton-moore site seems to think that Rohn25 sections don't weigh any

RE: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection

2007-06-05 Thread Ralph
The alton-moore site seems to think that Rohn25 sections don't weigh anything. He said he has carried 2 sections in each hand easily. Don't believe it. A section weighs about 40-50 lbs and you need a good rope and certainly a better pulley and clamps that he shows. I'd be afraid of his setup. --

RE: [WISPA] Tower Questions

2007-06-05 Thread Ralph
8 bay dipole FM antenna -Original Message- What are those black things at the top of the FM tower? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Delp
JohhnyO, You are correct. A lot of states used to have chauffers licenses, but now the CDL (starting in mid 80's) specified weight limits. The only exemption is government vehicles (like fire trucks). It was the way to grandfather all the volunteer firemen. Who needs a commercial driver's

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread JohnnyO
Blair - you need to re-check on these state laws.. Anything over 26,000 Gross weight capable vehicle requires a CDL ! This is nationwide - atleast this is what the state troopers who have stopped us have told us on numerous occassions... For Hire or Not - weight limits are weight limi

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Extenders

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Crawford
This might work of your application. Approx -$1100.00 /ea http://www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial_webrQS%20_Q29udGFpbmVyPWNvbS53ZWJyaWRnZS5lbnRpdHkuRW50aXR5JTVCT0lEJTVCMzY2RjgzQ0E5OTMzOUE0NUFFMEE2MDhDMUZDQURCRDAlNUQlNUQ. Frank - Original Message - From: "Eric Mu

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Blair Davis
In most states, as long as the vehicle is only operated by the vehicle owner, and it is not used as a common carrier, (to transport people or cargo for hire), and it is not used to carry HazMat, and it is not driven across state lines, a CDL is NOT required. In Michigan, my chauffeurs class 3

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael Erskine
Mike Delp wrote: Mike, It was a pleasure talking with you at MUM. The pleasure was mine, sir. I will probably make more of those MUM's when they are closer to home. -m- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Arc

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Tim Kerns
WE have 2 trucks for installs and signal checks. The 1st we bought 2 years ago and it is a large step van with a boom bucket on top. Kind of looks like a bread truck with half the front windshield cut away for the bucket. It has a reach of 44 feet from the ground. The 2nd truck we bought about

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael J. Erskine
Tom; A snorkel is a bucket truck that is used to get above the fire and spray water down on the fire. It is a diesel and the boss says six miles to the gallon. You will need a commercial driver's license with air brakes certification. It is a specialty truck to be sure, you aren't going to

[WISPA] Ethernet Extenders

2007-06-05 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Can anyone offer any experiences with ethernet extenders? We are looking for an alternative to wireless backhaul in one of our ILEC towns. We own the copper and are looking to go up to 1 mile. We have looked at VDSL as an alternative also. This particular application requires 20mb/s full-duplex

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Travis Johnson
I bet mileage is measured in gallons per mile. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: What Class License is required to drive this puppy? What's the typical gas mileage? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Michael J. Er

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I had my bucket truck tested. Was only around $500. It was cool, passed electrical up to 96kv! Now if I can just get the upper controls fixed so I can actually use it! marlon - Original Message - From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
What Class License is required to drive this puppy? What's the typical gas mileage? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Michael J. Erskine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:28 P

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
It is an 80' snorkel truck and cost $9,999.00 @ sixty thousand miles. What is that? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Michael Erskine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:32 PM

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
The marketing potential is limitless, with the fire truck. WISP to the RESCUE! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:02 PM Subject

[WISPA] Tower Questions

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Hammett
http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/johan_hammy/ What are the two antenna on the cell tower that aren't traditional cell antenna? That little box was added at the same time. What are those black things at the top of the FM tower? What kind of tower is the little one with the dish on top?

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread George Rogato
Blake Bowers wrote: Many Fire Departments in the US can't even afford this. Our fire department was just asking for the city to find funds to buy a ladder truck. We don't have one and can't afford one. So we don't allow many 3 story buildings to be built unless they have a sprinkler sys

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Delp
Yes we paid for the rebuild and they certified it like all of their rebuilds. We spent around $19K for the refurb. We will not use it for any firefighting duties, but it is nice to know that the structure is sound. They work on all aerial platforms in the St. Louis Metro area, and are factory rep

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Blake Bowers
- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? We had it refurbished by a truck center near her, and it is up to NFPA standards on the ladder operation. Really?

Re: [WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Well that looks fairly simple. There's not much out there for gin pole videos. :-p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vCuIDi4FTQ That was the only one I could find. There's a lot to say on this site, though I dunno if any of it is correct: http://www.alton-moore.net/towers.html - Mike

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Blair Davis
We built our own gin pole for Rhon 25g towers. Cost us under $50. If you want to see pics, send me an email address Mike Hammett wrote: Is a gin pole something one could construct (well, everything is depending on how skilled you are) or is it a purchase-only item? How much would one c

Re: [WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6

2007-06-05 Thread John Scrivner
I unsubscribed him. He is welcome back once he returns from his vacation. Scriv Tim Steele wrote: I am currenlty on vacation and I will not be able to read the message you sent me untill June 18th. I will be on vacation untill that time. If this is urgent then please speak with John Stacy at

[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6

2007-06-05 Thread Tim Steele
I am currenlty on vacation and I will not be able to read the message you sent me untill June 18th. I will be on vacation untill that time. If this is urgent then please speak with John Stacy at 541-883-3565 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Un

[WISPA] Gin Poles/Rohn 25 tower erection

2007-06-05 Thread Ralph
Rohn sold them. They marketed it as an "Erection Fixture". I prefer Gin Pole. You can buy the top piece with the pully and the bottom clamps from http://w9iix.com/ii8.htm They are about $230.00 and you can supply the mast or buy it. It is a 2"OD pipe (aluminum or steel) We have one with a re

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a little under $300.00 in mine. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? Is a gin pole something one could cons

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Is a gin pole something one could construct (well, everything is depending on how skilled you are) or is it a purchase-only item? How much would one cost to purchase? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Ralph
Why would you have used a crane to stack it if you had not had the fire truck? Normally you stack by sections using a gin pole. It is very dangerous to stack a Rohn25 in multi sections. Just curious Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael J. Erskine
Dylan Oliver wrote: Putting out fires .. isn't that the small WISP's forte? Parades! Great for advertizing. On 6/5/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...and you can put out fires as long as the water tank is filled and you know how to operate the pump panel (and you are preserving a

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Michael J. Erskine
Michael Erskine wrote: What do you want from me? I give you an idea... You all talk smack. I am supposed to care when you choose to remain ignorant? NAW I don't think so. Believe what you want. All it means is there are more places for my "FIRE TRUCK" to put down poles. So, yeah...

[WISPA] FCC Gets 250,000 calls about 700 Auction

2007-06-05 Thread Peter R.
This weekend, the Federal Communications Commission got an unexpected surprise when a quarter-million people flooded their offices with letters urging the agency to use our airwaves to connect more Americans to an open and affordable Internet. The mas

[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 28, Issue 5

2007-06-05 Thread Tim Steele
I am currenlty on vacation and I will not be able to read the message you sent me untill June 18th. I will be on vacation untill that time. If this is urgent then please speak with John Stacy at 541-883-3565 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Un

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Mike Delp
Mike, It was a pleasure talking with you at MUM. We have a 105 foot Ladder truck that used to be in service at Springfield IL FD. It has a lifting capacity of 750 LBS. We do not use it for site survey's, we have two bucket vans for that. It is a portable tower, and we utilized it as a tower, la

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
And a good idea it is that you gave us, Mike... Understand that as a former (11 year) firefighter, I LOVE old fire engines. Anything that anyone or any WISP can do to keep them alive is a wonderful thing. Speaking of wonderful things, get a look at some of these... http://www.clafma.org/coll

Re: [WISPA] Dense canopy for Canopy was: Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Ron Wallace
John; I would concur with Michael Erskines comments. Though, the 900 Canopy does surprise me occasionally and works when Ithink it will not. Its easy to manage and works very well. With a clear 500 feet or more it usually works very well. Ron Wallace >-Original Message- >From: Michael Er

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
Exactly! Although some would suggest that fire prevention is also important... Dylan Oliver wrote: Putting out fires .. isn't that the small WISP's forte? On 6/5/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...and you can put out fires as long as the water tank is filled and you know how to op

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Dylan Oliver
Putting out fires .. isn't that the small WISP's forte? On 6/5/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...and you can put out fires as long as the water tank is filled and you know how to operate the pump panel (and you are preserving a piece of Americana) -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC

Re: [WISPA] John Edwards on 700

2007-06-05 Thread Zack Kneisley
It's actuating interesting for a candidate to have any knowledge of this otherwise grassroots perspective on the spectrum use. To make these claims as he has, either himself or his staff must have similar views or knowledge. Could this perspective possibly benefit the medium size ISP/WISP or wil

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
Mike at Wisper has a firetruck, they use for an emengercy tower! its like 100 foot, or they put it up to get signal for a speical event, things like that.. On 6/5/07, Smith, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not THAT could be cool. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Smith, Rick
Not THAT could be cool. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck? and launching paper airplanes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wi