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2008-01-28 Thread George Rogato
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Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
whether to give private or public address has nothing to do with cost. The cost per IP, is next to nothing, for an upstream with large block.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ugo Bellavance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Hensley
Even if you buy your own from ARIN, if you're that big, then the costs are nothing - I agree. I personally do private addressing on all my broadband clients. That allows me to NAT how I see fit. I someone needs a public IP I do a static 1-1 NAT for them. So far I've had no issues.

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
First one must define public address. Meaning public IPs used belonging to the upstream ISP or the WISP owning their own block of public IPs. Owning your own block, you must ask... Is it worth the technical admin headache to manage them, and is the expertise there to do it. And is the benefit

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Hensley
Not sure where the 10+ minutes per install addition for a static IP comes into play. Takes 30 seconds or so to program that in. Yeah, not quite as convenient as DHCP, and you run the risk of duplicate IP's if you get sloppy, but otherwise I see a huge advantage with static. Renumbering, like

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Ryan Langseth
There are things like looking at the customer base. 1) are they likely to need incoming connections ( This is mainly for businesses ) 2) are they likely to get a worm and have it start spamming ( I hate trying to track down a spammy machine behind NAT ... its not hard just annoying) 3) are

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Tom DeReggi wrote: whether to give private or public address has nothing to do with cost. Oh, what are the thing to consider exactly? Regards, Ugo Bellavance WISPA Wants You! Join today!

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2008-01-28 Thread Travis Johnson
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Re: [WISPA] Linux mail solution

2008-01-28 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Mike Hammett wrote: I currently just use a domain on my InterWorx hosting controller for all of my email. I'm looking to hire Jeremy Davis to setup Freeside for me and I'd like to setup a new mail system integrated with Freeside. He'd integrate Freeside into it and I'm awaiting server

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
The biggest cost in using Static IP is after support. Thinks liek Linksys routers are notorious for loosing their configurations. When teh configuration is lost, your on the phone for an hour walking your customer through how to enter the IP back in. MOst commodity routers default to DHCP, so if

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Don't forget to track who has what dynamic IP address, and when they had it. You will need this information with the law enforcement agencies come a knocking for some kiddie porn peddler using your network. ryan On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: Not sure where the 10+

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Eric Rogers
If the default for most routers is DHCP, then give it a private block and then D-NAT all port 80 traffic to one of your servers and give them a spash-page that says...Your router lost its' configuration. Here are instructions of how to reset it. Don't forget, the default for most routers'

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Ryan Langseth
My thoughts got ahead of my fingers,, it was supposed to say bigger and more profitable. I am looking at it from my standpoint, we have 2000+ customers, 48 POPs and yes, all static IP addresses (a mix of internet routable and rfc1918). We have 2 full time installers and 2-3 CSRs on

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Don't forget to track who has what dynamic IP address, and when they had it. While this is a good idea... You will need this information with the law enforcement agencies come a knocking for some kiddie porn peddler using your network. This is not

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Most customers will be happy with Dynamic DHCP whereby a domain name will always fine their server. If you explain that, especially if you describe the elaborate resolutions that are available to them via Dynamic DHCP including blocks and multiple servers, won't they be satisfied? . . . J o n a

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
You can always use reservations to give a user the same IP each time even though they are getting it via DHCP. If you ever have to re-number your whole network without DHCP you may become a convert. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread ted
Ryan, Have you considered using DHCP to manage manually assigned IP addresses? It offers the best of both worlds. The IPs are statically mapped to customers, yet the allocations are managed on the server side, eliminating the concern about ongoing maintenance (lost client settings).

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Ryan Langseth
Yea, actually I have looked that and would love to have that. This is a network I inherited, it was this way when I got it. If it was mine from the beginning DHCP would have been used (along with RADIUS and etc). Ryan On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan, Have

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Hammett
I use PPPoE to hand out public IP addresses for Internet traffic. I then statically assign private IPs for internal management. IPs are basically free. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ugo Bellavance [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Ryan Langseth wrote: Yea, actually I have looked that and would love to have that. This is a network I inherited, it was this way when I got it. If it was mine from the beginning DHCP would have been used (along with RADIUS and etc). Do you have remote access to the

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to publish/open source these scripts? Not for me. I do this (consulting) for a living. It is one of the tools I have in my toolbox that I pull out from time to time. FWIW, I do include a script that can do this for Mikrotik on

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread ted
Jaker, route-map should work, but have you considered wccp (web cache coordination protocol)? ip wccp version _ ip wccp web-cache interface _out interface_ ip wccp web-cache redirect out ted On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jake VanDewater wrote: Eric, I'm interested in how you pulled off the

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Jake VanDewater
We are looking into doing DHCP Option 82 for our NMS DHCP subnet for our CPE devices. If I am understanding this correctly, through this option I will be able to designate the IP address(es) that are going to be allocated behind that CPE device. This way I will only have to track MAC address

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Jake VanDewater
Eric, I'm interested in how you pulled off the D-NAT. Did you use a pix to do this? I have been researching ways to do this with a 2800 Cisco router. From what I can find I will need to do some aliasing. Can you provide me some more insight on how you were able to accomplish? -Jaker

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
If you have access to the DHCP server then it should be pretty trivial to migrate. Your current lease file will show all of the IPs and their associated MAC addresses. All you need to do is build a static lease file from this information. I am finally migrating from a static IP to DHCP with

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Eric, Great idea Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for

Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users

2008-01-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes but there are some security concerns with DHCP when sharing wireless sectors. To prevent requires tracking MAC addressess, which is one more headache to track. Sure if you are doing true 802.11 CPE, no problem, the link uses the MAC of the CPE that you already know, but when supporting true

[WISPA] OT: NFL's 'radio cops' organize wireless use for Super Bowl XLII

2008-01-28 Thread Jack Unger
They do not like to be called “radio cops.” They insist on “frequency coordinators.” But on rare occasions at National Football League games, the NFL’s Game Day Frequency Coordinators have to get a bit insistent http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/012508-nfl-radio-cops.html?page=1 --