Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Unger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Guess who doesn't really believe in Free Speech. > You? > I get ripped here endlessly because I talk about how WE should stand up for > responsibility, our own economic and business liberty and here's a good > example. > I'll bet you feel that you're being ripped

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread RickG
Thanks Travis! On 6/18/08, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dragonwave has been our best radio ever. 18ghz with 2ft dishes shooting > 13 miles for 9 months without missing a single ping. We push about > 50Mbps across it daily. > > Trango also has their 18ghz product that is less money t

[WISPA] Internet Monitor Software was "User Check"

2008-06-18 Thread Larry Yunker
I've prepared Release 1.0.0 SR 16 of the Internet Monitor software for general release. The Software is now available for download at: http://www.wispadvantage.com/html/custom_software.html For more information about the project please refer to the thread on the WISPA General List regarding "

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread George
Nobody ever rips you here Mark. Point is, generally speaking politics is a taboo subject on these various lists. I'm sure there are peple that agree with you and disagree on these lists, but most don't respond because we know what will happen. To bad you don't have a politics list somewhere that

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread reader
Guess who doesn't really believe in Free Speech. I get ripped here endlessly because I talk about how WE should stand up for responsibility, our own economic and business liberty and here's a good example. Shall WISPA, et al, write position papers on how to block usenet groups, or should we pu

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I partially disagree... It'll be broadband providers. Your T1, fiber, etc. connections will most likely remain open as you're ACTUALLY paying for what you use, unlike broadband which uses oversubscription. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - O

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Let them... Marketing becomes a whole lot easier when you can say, "Get all of the Internet, not just what Comcast or Verizon allows you to see." (Trademark me, and now) :-p -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ja

Re: [WISPA] How much data

2008-06-18 Thread David E. Smith
Chris Caputo wrote: > Speed is by powers of 10 and quantity is by powers of 2. So Mbps is > 1,000,000 bits per second, while a megabyte is 1,048,576 bytes. If we're picking nits, don't forget the fact that most users are more concerned with "how fast does my Web page load," so you have to accou

Re: [WISPA] How much data

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Caputo
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Rogelio wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ok silly question that has probably been asked a million times. But if a > > user had a 1M connection how much data in Megs could he transfer if it ran > > at maximum capacity for 24 hours? > > A 1Mbps connection, right? > > 1 byt

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Stephen Patrick
No problem and great to hear from you Brad. Just for the record, here we have the "English Summer". Take that as a daily lottery of whether it's going to be sunny, drizzle or deluge. Most probably explains why we Brits all talk about the weather - it's just so random. Best regards Stephen ---

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Belton
Sorry everyone. Meant to be off list. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Hello Stephen, Good to hear from

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Stephen, Good to hear from you and trust all is well on your side of the pond. Sounds like you have an interesting product...similar to what DragonWave is pushing with their Horizon line. Send me some information on what you have. I'd love to know how it compares (features & price) to oth

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Dennis Burgess
I think this is going to be part of it, but i would assume that it would be more of a speed of access. I can see big companies, such as these in question, charging extra to access high bandwidth content, such as youtube etc. This though, will be paid, by the content providers to give priority

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Bryan Scott
On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's all keep in mind that the redundancy is moot if you plug both > radios into the same UPS or outlet. Who uses outlets? All our mission critical gear is -48VDC. :) -- Bryan --

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread lakeland
Let's all keep in mind that the redundancy is moot if you plug both radios into the same UPS or outlet. :-) Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Stephen Patrick
Excellent discussion going here, I'd propose something similar to Brad, with a single antenna, but with a combiner and dual ODUs for licensed on both paths. Those go down to separate IDUs, with separate Ethernet ports to different upstreams or routers. That gives you complete isolation i.e. no

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I couldn't agree more Brad. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links Mission critical equates to mul

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Unger
I oppose limiting access to ANY sites because freedom (in my mind anyway) is about access to all ideas but on the big business level you must admit that charging for access is a very attractive and profitable idea. I would not be surprised at all to see the large ISPs begin to try to implement

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Brad Belton
Mission critical equates to multiple paths and technologies in my book. Network hardware can break whether it costs $100 or $100,000. I would consider a licensed & unlicensed combination for this path. If your sites will allow you could go with 6GHz and a 5Ghz failover path. Both links could pro

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Victoria Proffer
Personally I think we are coming into some scary times. *The state of New York is now blocking Usenet Groups*: 6/10/08 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9964895-38.html > New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced on Tuesday that Verizon > Communications, Time Warner Cable, and Sprint woul

[WISPA] WISPA Board Elections

2008-06-18 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Just a reminder - the WISPA Board Elections will be starting on Monday, June 23rd. Any WISPA member who wants to vote in the election has to be paid in full before the date of the election. If you are behind on your dues, please get them caught up. I have just sent out invoices for everyo

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
Well, I can't believe this would actually happen. We certainly aren't going to charge for visiting sites on a per site basis. Are you? With all the talks from the FCC about getting access to the underserved and unserved areas of the nation, I can't believe they would let this happen either. I g

[WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-18 Thread Victoria Proffer
Could this ever happen? http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2 Of my almost 17 years as an ISP, I find it hard to believe. How could the LECs possibly block all the sites? If this is true, what could we do to stop it? Thanks for your thoughts. Victoria Proffer CEO St. Louis Broadband Visit us @ w

Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-18 Thread Cameron Kilton
We are quite happy with it, it was a great solutions for an alternate path. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45 On the conve

Re: [WISPA] 3650 locations KML

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, Enbridge sure has a lot of those things... They've either got a pipeline or are building a pipeline near here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent

Re: [WISPA] OT - Patrick has left Alvarion

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
So when is the Sageni resort opening up? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Patrick has lef

Re: [WISPA] OT - Patrick has left Alvarion

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I think most of us would be (are) pretty close to dead after 10 years in this industry. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8

Re: [WISPA] Trango Link 45

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hammett
On the converse of that, it allows for the use of other technologies\protocols that would otherwise fragment a 1500 byte frame. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Blake Bowers
Mission critical and unlicensed don't go together. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> > RickG wrote: >> >> Any opinions on 100Mbps radios for mission >> critical 100Mbps PTP >> links? >> >> I need to go 10

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Joe Miller
it is a BX self support tower...I just need a ground person. --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:52 AM > Wel

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Gino Villarini
Well not really 45 @ 45 ... but they are good radios Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 200

Re: [WISPA] mission critical 100Mbps links

2008-06-18 Thread Gino Villarini
Licensed or Unlicensed? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:16 AM To: 'WISPA General Li

Re: [WISPA] iperf howto

2008-06-18 Thread Rogelio
Rogelio wrote: > I recently stumbled across this great iperf HOWTO (for calculating > throughput) > > http://www.egee-npm.org/e2emonit/download/older/HOWTO-edg-iperf-1.2.4.txt > > Haven't tried it yet, but I expect to soon... And some more bandwidth tools, as well http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ban