The post office is bankrupt, not self supporting.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/the-next-bankruptcy-the-u-s-postal-service/
Regards
Michael Baird
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
>
>> Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay
>> school
Heh, its still the land of opportunity - just for the wrong people (crooks,
criminals, politicians, lawyers, etc) :)
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Paul C Diem wrote:
> Yup, in the past century, America stopped being the land of opportunity and
> became the land of guarantees.
>
> Paul C Diem
>
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
> Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay
> school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay
> twice for another public option.
>
> Good analogy.
>
I don't think your parents had to pay twice. The
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scottie Arnett"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$%& day!
>
>
> > "One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket"
> >
> > I'll as
["Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your
healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but
electing to have FiOS instead. You're paying for 2 Internet services,
one great and the other not."]
Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents
Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
several towers that are close proximity.
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I'm not a big fan of grids - especially for ptp links. Ice is your enemy.
I really like the ARC 5ghz 23dbi panels (they do 4.9 to 6ghz I think).
Small, strong and have worked very well for me. I use the rb411 and have 3
or 4 ptp links up right now. Probably going to be putting up another one
so
> From the Washington Post also.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073002816.html
Regards
Michael Baird
> >From the NY Times:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ImageStream
> 800-813-512
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>> From the NY Times:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1
>
The article certainly shares some facts and anecdotes regarding the
2003 Texas tort reform. However, it doesn't point to any research that
ties cause and eff
>From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mat
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more
> doctors
> to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of
> 20-30
> years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business
> growing out of
> co
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
> Sure sign of a person losing his argument...personal attacks.
>
I would normally agree with you. Except in this case I am not relying
on a personal attack to refute his point. However, I am fed up with
uninformed people slowing down debate and
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:00 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> But look at their healthcare at #144
>
> http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
>
What does that have to do with the point I was refuting?
-Matt
Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more doctors
to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of 20-30
years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business growing out of
control.
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa
So then we remove interstate restrictions and if California continues to
regulate against the wishes of their citizens, they can move elsewhere.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Jeff Broadwick"
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
> Not sure where you got this info Matt. I've seen just the
> opposite. In
> Mississippi they had lost most of the OB/GYN docs. They are now
> getting
> what they need since they enacted tort reform.
>
You've seen or read the studies? Beca
Sure sign of a person losing his argument...personal attacks.
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
On D
Thanks Scottie,,, We have the power company coming out also to check power.
That was my first thought was brown out. This site has had power issues in
the past. I did have one radio out of the bunch that had reset back to
defaults. So far no packet storms detected, nor any more issues with failing
> You've got that one wrong. Studies have shown that in states where tort
reform was enacted there was no effect on the number of doctors or the cost
of healthcare. Specifically to your point, those states with tort reform did
NOT see a reduction in malpractice insurance premiums.
-Matt
Not sure
The Massachusetts and Maine programs have blown through their budgets...I
don't think Maine even signed up as many people as they expected.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not
> happy with
> how one company is ran, you can move to another. Just like if someone
> doesn't like Comcast's customer service or Verizon's service
> options, they
> can choos
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Mike wrote:
> The first is to allow people to die with dignity. I saw something on
> 60 minutes recently where a trauma doctor was talking about how 60%
> of people spend the last few days of their lives in intensive care at
> great expense while compassionate medica
I've been testing a few 5.8 grids for some p2p applications we are
developing. I had some Pac Wireless 26db's from old stock, I brought in
some Poynting 31's for testing, the Poynting's actually do worse then
then Pac Wireless which was rated 5 db less. I'm looking for other
Grids I should be
Not in some states Mike. I think California only has 4-6 insurance
companies that are allowed to sell policies in the state. That's one of the
big problems, along with individual state mandates about what MUST be in
those polices.
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106
But look at their healthcare at #144
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make
>> something better.
>>
> Act
- Original Message -
From: "Scottie Arnett"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$%& day!
> "One time, I had to borrow a friends bucket"
>
> I'll assume you meant bucket truck. The day we bought our bucket truck and
> brough
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make
> something better.
>
Actually, most medical R&D is funded by the government. Further, even
many of the corporate R&D programs depend on government funding.
> The greatest
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:49, Mike Hammett wrote:
> In going a little bit off topic (Hey, this conversation is relevant to any
> business, regardless of it going anywhere or not.) Why can't this and most
> federal programs be done on a state level?
It can be, but it shouldn't in this case. A la
Everyone (including illegals) currently can obtain life threatening
healthcare in the US.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "RickG"
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List
I support a system for people that truly cannot afford it themselves. Just
pulling a number out of thin air, but I'd imagine that's only 5% of the
population. My parents crested $40k in annual income not long ago, yet we
(family of 5) always had everything we needed to live and grow, including
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:22, Mike Hammett wrote:
> What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy
> with
> how one company is ran, you can move to another.
Except that you often can't, thanks to the weasel words "pre-existing
conditions." And even if you do, insurance
I find it astonishing that anyone on this list is for public healthcare,
regardless of whatever potential benefit there may be. We're all business
owners or upper management, yet some of us support the government taking
over an entire industry. It's okay for some other business to be eliminate
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote:
> a proper
> single-payer plan would save me a few dollars.
Is this a fact? We're going to have something bigger and better for
more people and it's going to cost less? When I was in the merchant marine we
went to the container port
I wonder if the people that did that report are from the University of East
Anglia.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Blake Bowers"
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:49 PM
To: "WISPA General List
Well haven't the NTIA and RUS been excellent examples of how quickly
government can take a program that already exists and expand it to more
people? It'll take them 1 year from the President's pen to spending the
money on a program they already had.
I can't wait until they do that with healthc
What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy with
how one company is ran, you can move to another. Just like if someone
doesn't like Comcast's customer service or Verizon's service options, they
can choose me for service. Just think if Qwest was everyone's sole Inter
This thread may reach historical post numbers on this list. Hard to
keep up with the subject.
There are two things that would go a long way towards helping bring
down costs and make health care more manageable for the working
class. Both are somewhat controversial.
The first is to allow peop
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:51, RickG wrote:
> You and I are paying way more
> than a couple of bucks.
Exactly. I'll freely admit to a bit of a selfish motive here - a proper
single-payer plan would save me a few dollars. It also would cost less for
most people than what they're paying for junk i
Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make
something better.
The greatest profit based economy? The USA, and we're doing quite well.
The greatest government based economy? We haven't seen them in 18 years.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://
Yeah, the VA's healthcare.. there's a system we all should want.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Robert West"
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:24 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [W
Personal responsibility? If they choose to buy a 73" LCD TV and a brand new
Chrysler instead of budgeting for their health, but then run to the ER when
a kid has a runny nose, they deserve the however many thousand dollar bill
coming to them.
Advocate and persuade, but don't force.
-
Mik
Matt,
I wasn't meaning history is a guide or a box (as in we base what we do
now on the past), but merely something to remind us that yes, we are different
from Europe. Europe's methods have their merit, but many Americans would feel
stifled and over regulated in a European system. It's
History should be a guide; not a box. Our country has proven that our
system of government and its attitude towards the free market is
unmatched by any other system of government past or present. However,
multinational corporations are something new that our system is having
a hard time wit
Owen,
I think maybe what you're missing is the historical perspective. Our
history is people left Europe which was mostly feudal with kings and rulers
dictating the details of people's lives and these people came here to be free.
Collaboration is needed so the whole can exceed what the
I keep reading what everyone is saying about government and
insurance, but I don't really believe you. Most of you say that you are
against the government getting involved in health care, that it is a
Socialist idea. What I haven't heard is any of you saying you wanted to stop
Medicare or S
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