Well haven't the NTIA and RUS been excellent examples of how quickly government can take a program that already exists and expand it to more people? It'll take them 1 year from the President's pen to spending the money on a program they already had.
I can't wait until they do that with healthcare! ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "MDK" <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:37 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance.... > So is food an absolute necessity. > > Does this mean we should have a single farmer system run by the > government? > > Maybe we should have a single ISP system, run by the government? Single > car maker, run by the government? Single housing contractor, run by > Congress? Single clothing maker, the federal clothing agency? > > Come on. You just can't go there, can you? Well, some people would. > They view government as holy and perfect, and just have a religious faith > in > it. The rest of us live in the real world and it would seem that given > a > few minutes of thought, it makes less than no sense to have the > government > run health care. > > Medicare? Please. Don't even dream of such nonsense. > > Medicare reimburses doctors, hospitals, etc, somewhere between 10 and 60% > of > the COST of what people who are on medicare actually get. The rest of > us > who actually PAY are paying to subsidize them. > > If everyone were transferred to Medicare, it would take somewhere between > 90 > and 270 days for almost every hospital, doctor's office, etc, to either go > bankrupt or close voluntarily. At the rates at which Mecicare pays, > the > best doctor you could get would be an email conference with some guy in > India who collects $3 per consult. > > It is NOT an option. > > Frankly, for those of you want a single payer system... Could you tell > the > rest of us what experience you have with a federal agency that has so > inspired you with confidence over their efficiency, responsiveness, > wisdom, > and fantastic ability, that you stood in awe and said "I want them in > charge > of my life!" And, not only did that, but in your mind, completely made > up for the Postal service, the IRS, EPA, and all the other alphabet soup > which are stunning examples of "how to be wrong, wasteful, stupid and > irresponsible, overbearing, abusive, rude, power-trip seekers, and yet > never > get fired"? > > If that hasn't happened to you, then what sort of fantasy do you indulge > in, > that makes you think the government is just so darn good at running stuff? > Please provide an example of how the federal government is such a > fantastic > administrator of our money, while you're at it... > > I have just GOT to know where these fantasies... Or, maybe they are real > life experiences - the likes of which I have never witnessed, read about, > heard about, seen, or experienced personally... Come from, that so > inspire > people to put their life in the hands of Congress. > > My experience says I'd rather do surgery on myself. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "David E. Smith" <d...@mvn.net> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:50 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance.... > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly >>> run >>> in a "free market". It's "failure" is exactly due to this. Even after >>> all >>> the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have >>> "access" >>> to health care? >>> >> >> I suppose we're taking fundamentally different approaches to the issue of >> health care. I don't see it as one that can (or should) be solved by the >> free market - as far as I'm concerned, it's a fundamental human right. No >> person, anywhere on this planet, should have to worry about things like >> "money" when it comes to basic health and wellness. The fact that even >> one >> American (or anyone else really, but this is a US-centric list) doesn't, >> in >> my mind represents a deep-rooted failure of the free market, and of basic >> human kindness and compassion. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
