[WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are preferred. Does anyone one the list have recommendations? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Justin Wilson
There are several sellers on eBay selling Dell servers. We almost exclusively buy off eBay when it comes to servers. Lots of Dell/IBM/Etc. hardware with warranties. I just purchased 5 Poweredge 1850¹s for a client. 2x 3.4 Xeons with 4 gigs of ram, etc. $300 a server. All had a 1 year

Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection

2010-08-24 Thread RickG
Ah, yes, that makes sense. Thanks! On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: The MAC address it would report would be your upstream router. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 8/23/2010 1:18 AM, RickG wrote: So

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Gino Villarini
Surplus cComputers has some nice refurb stuff: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/featured-hardware/cg-69/servers.html Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are preferred. Does anyone one the list have recommendations? Buy a new Dell (or

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed. We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything. We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with. Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability,

Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-24 Thread Steve Barnes
You know I have a faster option. Buy a USB Ethernet port for a laptop that you assign a static and switch back and forth cable wise. I have a desktop PC that actually has 3 Ethernet cards one with a Static for our local network, 1 with a static ip for programming UBNT and Tranzeos in bridge

[WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be a nat issue but looking for suggestions. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
Something you want new or used? super cheap or not? --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-08-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
This is where a single system still don't do everything needed. Kinda stinks. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website:

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Rick Harnish
I agree. When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare. The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:15, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are preferred. Does anyone one the list have recommendations? If the workload is

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Mike
Are you assigning the router an address via DHCP? Try setting the renew lease time to some outrageously high value. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Tuesday, August 24,

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that can setup). Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: I have

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
Router has a static private ip that corresponds to a public ip. 1 to 1 nat. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Are you assigning the router an address via DHCP? Try setting the renew lease time to some outrageously high value. Friendly Regards, Mike

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Nick White
Computer Geeks usually has good stuff. I've bought both new (Intel) and refurb (HP) servers from them. Selection looks a bit low at the moment, but a month ago they had three times what's listed now. http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=821 Otherwise eBay is always a good source. On

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so there should be data moving over the connection. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Could be a NAT Issues or a timeout (IP SEC VPN's have two timeouts that can setup). Faisal

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other end. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.commailto:jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the same thing, but it also drops while they are entering data, so there should be data moving

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
It is from their office to a billing server at some location. Supposedly they say nothing is wrong at the other end, so I only have half the story. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Is this a VPN to a corporate office? Could be at the other

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Could be an MTU issue. This thread has some tips on how to debug those issues. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=13t=42859 Or it could be NAT…yet another reason to avoid NATing customers. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Is this a VPN to a

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Auer
That's pretty cool. What are you using for shared storage? On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Agreed.  We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything. We purchased a Dell

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yeah yeah, it's never anything at the other end The Internet is OK, the VPN is not, I would not spend too much tim looking at my own network. Set up a monitor from your headend to the VPN concentrator. I would suspect packet loss, or some type of peering issue. - Jerry From:

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Chris Gotstein
If you are looking for new, i've been buying my servers from IXsystems out of California for the past 6 years. They have a good range of products and also sell blade systems. Very stable hardware. They are a big contributor to open source and FreeBSD. If you want contact info, let me know.

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some reason now the VPN drops about every hour. There is no problem with the Internet, just the VPN. The customer is setup as a 1to1 nat. I am thinking it might be a nat issue but

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremie Chism
I will have to get the exact figure, but I think I remember looking at that and it was a large number. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@arrl.net wrote: On 8/24/2010 10:09 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: I have a customer on my network with a netgear VPN router. For some

Re: [WISPA] Backend systems

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Auer
Unfortunately that's a fact of life of enterprise software. Any sufficiently powerfully piece of software will require a lot of customization to do exactly what you want. Witness all the Oracle/PeopleSoft/SAP consultants. :-/ On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor STP 5e

2010-08-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:17 -0400, Steven McGehee wrote: I was looking to buy some Mohawk Outdoor Cat5e STP cable, ( http://www.mohawk-cable.com/images/products/pdf/lantrak%20cat%205e%20sctp.pdf ) but my vendor informed me that it takes 4-5 weeks to get ordered, compared to two days for

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, and doing things that cannot really be virtualized. Three will be doing NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking software, three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network monitoring

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin Sullivan
What is everyone doing for VM storage? Kevin - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't have much data at all so I am using two SATA disks in a mirror RAID. Probably 120 gigs? I know everything fits on an 80 gig drive. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Kevin Sullivan

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 24 August 2010 13:02, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: What is everyone doing for VM storage? Internal drives on small sites (prefer Raid 1 if possible, easier to recover in the event of a controller failure) and iSCSI for larger sites. The Dell MD3000i is a good bang for

Re: [WISPA] VPN

2010-08-24 Thread Matt Hardy
It sounds like a NAT issue to me... have you tried enabling GRE/PPTP/etc NAT helpers? http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Services#Service_Ports http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Services#Service_Ports(Assuming you're using Mikrotik?) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Jeremie Chism

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Brad Belton
We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of storage. The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the cost savings in our situation. Dell has always taken real good care of us. I've called Dell at 4pm with an issue and they had a replacement

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Brad Belton
Running and beginning to migrate to our own VoIP platform was the deciding reason we went with a blade setup. Redundancy - Redundancy - Redundancy Everything is redundant and has built-in failover with alarm notification. Things break and there's no way around that fact, so layer on the

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin Sullivan
Any idea what that cost? We're looking at ~2TB of data currently, and we'd like some room to grow... Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Nick White
My web developer sent me this a while back: http://www.backblaze.com/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage.html We're thinking of doing something similar in a new rack setup. Don't need that much storage, but a couple of RAID 6 servers with DRBD network RAID would provide

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:34:41AM -0400, Justin Wilson wrote: There are several sellers on eBay selling Dell servers. We almost exclusively buy off eBay when it comes to servers. Lots of Dell/IBM/Etc. hardware with warranties. I just purchased 5 Poweredge 1850¹s for a client. 2x 3.4

Re: [WISPA] Matchmaker and Taxpayer Waste

2010-08-24 Thread MDK
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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Brad Belton
There's one in the Dell Outlet right now for $9919.00 with 15 2TB 7.2K RPM drives. About 7-15x the storage you're looking for depending on how you configure. I think that's about what we paid for 15 750GB 15K RPM drives. Dell put together a complete turn-key package for us including the

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Dell Outlet is 90% new dell stuff that was shipped twice, almost always still in the box. Someone ordered the wrong thing for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 24 August 2010 17:54, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Dell Outlet is 90% new dell stuff that was shipped twice, almost always still in the box. Someone ordered the wrong thing for example. Exactly. There are some great bargains to be had there.

Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

2010-08-24 Thread Josh Luthman
My point was rather to show it isn't garage sale quality :) On Aug 24, 2010 7:28 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 August 2010 17:54, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Dell Outlet is 90% ne... Exactly. There are some great bargains to be had there.

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live

2010-08-24 Thread Scott Carullo
Hey Steven, I upgraded one of our apex links this morning and its been fine all day in the wild pushing about 50Mb. I have a few questions to compare with you though, I emailed Trango tech support but I never heard anything back. Maybe I have the wrong email, its like they never get them??

[WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam

2010-08-24 Thread Mike Hammett
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Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive outdoor netcam

2010-08-24 Thread Tom Sharples
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