Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis

2010-09-11 Thread Nick Olsen
Exactly, People confuse the two all the time. But yeah, I'm talking TW Telecom, And yes, Fiber :D Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all. On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote: Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 switches... You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route

[WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

2010-09-11 Thread Rick Harnish
All WISPs, This week, WISPA filed comments on the TV Whitespaces once again. The FCC is set to make decisions on this crucial topic very soon. It is imperative for all operators to take a few minutes and file individual comments to the FCC about Unlicensed use of the TV Whitespaces spectrum

Re: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

2010-09-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Low coast antennas? Must be a new style. If you are affiliated with any ARRA projects, be sure to mention the need for the spectrum to fully realize the potential. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/11/2010 9:54 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: All

Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

2010-09-11 Thread Kevin Owen
Thanks for link. I should be able to find something there. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 6:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole? What about a flag pole?

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Run the AP and SM in WDS mode. the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do anything then? Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Run the AP and SM in WDS mode. the radios do some funny things with ARP with it off. - Jerry -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread my_em...@webjogger.net
I think a lot depends on what the signal strength is on the CCU (AU) side. I several links that from the EUM (SU) are worse than -85, but at the CCU they are better than -78. Mind you these links aren't supper fast though, especially on the upload. It's okay if they're a lower usage customer.

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Oh, nevermind. That IP is a Time Server. http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi. Probably not related to your problem. Is the AP running the latest firmware? - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent:

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Mmmm. They need to update their dns. Makes it look like a cable user. Non-authoritative answer: 140.178.56.24.in-addr.arpa name = 24-56-178-140.co.warpdriveonline.com. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Oh, nevermind. That IP is a Time

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Laptops will only do station mode. Other stations can do WDS but only if the ap supports it. On Sep 11, 2010 2:31 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The only clients to the AP are laptops. Would the WDS setting do anything then? Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Jerry

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yeah, the very latest. 3.5.1 I should have recognized the IP, that's the one I use for NTP. Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Oh, nevermind. That IP is a Time Server. http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi. Probably not related to your problem. Is the AP running

Re: [WISPA] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

2010-09-11 Thread Scott Carullo
When submitting a filing, what is supposed to go in the details section. There is a check box, drop down that says Comments, then a file number test box. Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 877-804-3001 x102 From: Rick Harnish

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [IMPORTANCE LEVEL: HIGH] TV Whitespaces Support Letter Template

2010-09-11 Thread Jack Unger
Correction (Wednesday is not the 16th - oops). Your comments must be filed before 5 PM ET on Thursday, Sept. 16. Please file soon. Thank-you, jack On 9/11/2010 11:00 AM, Jack Unger wrote: Comments must be on file by

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread RickG
I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting weird issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the mode matter? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Run the AP and SM in WDS mode. the radios do some

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Jon Auer
Beware of the TCAM size on that box. IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008 because of that limitation. On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub $20k range.

[WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
Has anyone used or owned a Bil-Jax Towable Boom Lift? Been looking.. Can't afford a decent boom truck so the economics work for one of these boom lift trailers. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 image001.gif

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can establish a BGP

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
On the AP? No. The station has to be bridge. On Sep 11, 2010 4:26 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I started turning on WDS mode on some of my UBNT AP's but started getting weird issues such as dropping stations. These are in bridge mode. Does the mode matter? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread RickG
I've got a customer who bought a very nice lift truck after he got a contract to work in Louisiana after Katrina. I've used a few times and it works well. It only has 65k miles. He no longer needs it and said he'd let me have it for $20k. I dont recall what year it is but its fairly new in good

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Rented one several times. Works fine but would not want to use it on a regular basis. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
WDS just simply allows transparent bridging. We run our in AP ADS and Station WDS and it works fine - better actually. Are you saying that after you changed to WDS you started dropping stations? I would suspect it's coincidence but I could be wrong. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
- What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC. - Should not be any different than setting up BGP over a Physical Connection.. As long IP is being passed it should not be a problem. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread RickG
Yes. It could coincindence but I'll give it another whirl. What about Spanning Tree? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: WDS just simply allows transparent bridging. We run our in AP ADS and Station WDS and it works fine - better actually. Are

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Jon Auer
That makes sense. BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a Ethernet cable AFAIK. Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk with the sales guys goes? On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote: That makes sense. BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a Ethernet cable AFAIK. Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Matt Jenkins
Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution. On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk with the sales guys goes? On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote: That makes sense. BGP over a VPLS VC

Re: [WISPA] NS2Loco ARP table strangeness

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
I have not enabled it so I don't know the impact. Seems like it can't hurt but maybe the radios think there is a loop when there isn't and is shutting down? Just guessing at this point. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

2010-09-11 Thread Philip Dorr
Would a RB1000 and HP Procurve work? On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution. On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your

[WISPA] Wind Turbines

2010-09-11 Thread ~NGL~
Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and raise objections or what. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

2010-09-11 Thread Chris Hudson
Not at all, I have 95 I think with 2-5 miles. Chris - Original Message - From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: [WISPA] Wind Turbines Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They

Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

2010-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't help you but I would imagine you would be a grinch to object. On Sep 11, 2010 6:44 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Anyone have experience with a wind farm coming into their area. They are planning on 29 wind turbines about 8 miles from my tower. Should I panic and raise objections or what.

Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
Not much more of an issue than a new grain leg! Go make a deal for tower space! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wind Turbines

Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
Check with your local department of transportation. Think for a moment Idiot hits pole, pole goes down. Pole bent or broken. DOT has to get rid of it. Before it goes to recycler, go get it for scrap value. You may have to call a few DOT facilities to get what you want but a good size

Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
Sadly. I am with you on that condemnation. *Sigh* -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] testing... What happened?

Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
Um But I've seen tube be stronger than solid. Physics? Or maybe.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg pipe Well heck, if

Re: [WISPA] direct bury pole?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
You can direct bury a steel pole the same as a wooden. You just lose height the same as wooden. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] direct bury

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
I'm hearin' ya. What were the issues? Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift Rented one several times. Works

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
20k be pretty cool for my taste. Been looking g at a couple for 5 to 7 grand. Ten years old but certified, as I am as well. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
It's just a hassle to use. The outriggers need alot of room. Very springy Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.commailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I’m hearin’ ya. What were the issues? Bob- From:

Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M

2010-09-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
Rick: Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that have a Rocket plugged into them? If you do, open up Winbox, go to tools, Ping. Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket. Do you have any lost packets? We're seeing 2-7% packet loss. Are you using 100mbit?

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
I’m listening. I looked at that at the local rental. Plastic and long. Was an issue with me. Maybe I need to rent one to see if I can break it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
Mac OS X (bash) says: ping -i.4 192.168.7.1 ping: -i interval too short: Operation not permitted using sudo makes it work. It might be the same for Linux. Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote: On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all

Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift

2010-09-11 Thread Robert West
I LIKE breaking things. At least with the “Proper” rental contract…… From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bil-Jax Boom Lift I’m

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Greg Ihnen
What about using flood ping -f. Does that work in Linux. I use that in Mac OS X. Greg On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Kevin R. Battersby wrote: On September 11, 2010, Chuck Hogg wrote: That is from the CCU side. In all of our testing we are seeing high ping spikes. Is there any other

Re: [WISPA] WaveRider LMS 3000

2010-09-11 Thread Jeremie Chism
Part of their mac polling will turn it off if their is not traffic for a while. If I remember correctly their is a high priority setting that will keep it up. I will check all that at the office Monday. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net

Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M

2010-09-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I have Mikrotik 750 / 750G, with Multiple Rocket M5 for a typical POP.. I am not getting any packet loss, when doing pings from the MK to Rocket M5, with the timeout changed to 100. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 9/11/2010 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Rick: Since I know