Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Blair Davis
Tiger Direct has netbooks with winXP in the $250 range. I love mine. On 11/30/2010 10:15 PM, Rogelio wrote: bmoldas...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source for new netbooks or small laptops with Win XP operating system? Looking for something sub $600. Using it strictly for programming

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 12/01/2010 05:27 AM, Blair Davis wrote: Tiger Direct has netbooks with winXP in the $250 range. I love mine. On 11/30/2010 10:15 PM, Rogelio wrote: bmoldas...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source for new netbooks or small laptops with Win XP operating system? Looking for

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Stuart Pierce
eBay Big Bob, I just got a notebook/laptop replaced for $182. Like you I don't need it to do much cpu intensive tasks, just get into antennas, configure, test and show the customer some youtube videos. -- Original Message -- From: bmoldas...@gmail.com

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Brian Webster
Refurbed Dell laptops with XP Pro for $288 each http://www.pcforsale.com/ Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 21:11, bmoldas...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source for new netbooks or small laptops with Win XP operating system?  Looking for something sub $600.  Using it strictly for programming equipment and running diagnostics.  Not doing anything CPU intensive.

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We had this with Tranzeo CPQ radios in router mode. The new sites open too many streams and overwhelm the routers. Starting to see some Linksys one's do it too. Using the latest and greatest firmware fixed the problems. Usually. Sometimes it's time to upgrade the hardware though. marlon

Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Oh yeah, we'd run speed tests and they'd look great. Google would load right up etc. Reboot the router/radio and things would run fine for a little bit. Then try to go to MSN, Myspace, facebook etc. and things would die. marlon - Original Message - From: Optimum Wireless Services

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Look for an internal wireless system that's drowning out the AP. Think x10 camera or other similar system. Do you have a spectrum analyzer that you can look with? marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday,

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd give Dell a call. Either factor refub units or brand new but with XP installed instead of 7. http://www.dell.com/us/en/dfb/notebooks/ct.aspx?refid=notebookss=dfbcs=28 Course you can always call them at 888-518-3355. I tend to want to talk to people. marlon - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Go to Amazon and type XP Laptop into the search...lots, good, cheap, and reliable store. . . . J o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:09

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Jason Hensley
I'm curious if this ever got fixed and what the cause was? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
I'm curious if he tried different channels. It must be a monster signal to wipe out an AP right next to the laptop. I'm not sure I'd want to live there without my tinfoil hat. Greg On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: I'm curious if this ever got fixed and what the cause was?

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Scott Reed
I had e-mailed the customer last week to have her turn off anything she knew was wireless. I received an e-mail yesterday saying that she had and still did not work. One of the routers that had been at her house and did not work has been deployed elsewhere and is working fine. I am going to

[WISPA] Illinois WISP Meeting Synopsis

2010-12-01 Thread Rick Harnish
Yesterday, 21 participants representing WISPs, WISPA or a vendor met in Springfield, Illinois. The purpose of the meeting was to build relationships, discuss the industry and the future and develop strategies to succeed in a more competitive landscape in the coming years. Of the

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Robert West
A couple of years ago I had a customer who would drop signal all the time. One day when I was there pulling my hair out I noticed every time her furnace kicked on the signal dropped. Either the motor or the electronics was creating some nasty RF. Bob- -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
I had a CFL that looked dead but was hot. It was knocking out all the 802.11 in the house. That was some years ago but found it by walking the house with an FM radio tuned to a weak station. It was clear when I was within a couple feet that it was the cause...when I reached up to see if it was

[WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-01 Thread Tom Sharples
Hi, we need to install an aprox. 8 mile PTP 5.8Ghz link near the Big Island in Hawaii. One end will be at about 50ft MSL, while the other end is at about 3500ft. The first 4 miles are over water, with rest over moderately hilly terrain to a freestanding 50ft tower. The ends have LOS. Ordinarly

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
http://ubnt.com/airview - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/1/2010 3:17 PM, Scott Reed wrote: I had e-mailed the customer last week to have her turn off anything she knew was wireless. I received an e-mail yesterday saying that she had and still

Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
Does anyone advocate or have experience with circular polarization over water? Greg On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Tom Sharples wrote: Hi, we need to install an aprox. 8 mile PTP 5.8Ghz link near the Big Island in Hawaii. One end will be at about 50ft MSL, while the other end is at about

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We do this today with Mikrotik routers. Don't need the bgp part of it for just a backup service. marlon - Original Message - From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: [WISPA] DSL BGP Does anyone know of a

Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Just a quick note. It seems that most wifi based systems that I've used do NOT detect constant carrier signals. So a mechanism that is always on will kill them but not show up as noise in the stats. A spectrum analyzer is a mission critical device sometimes. marlon - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Jeremie Chism
Can you elaborate a little on how you have this configured. I had thought about the 50 Meg Comcast as a backup. I also use mikrotik for the router. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: We do this today with Mikrotik routers. Don't

Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Bakeoff test survey

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I took a look at your list. Pretty impressive. None of those are on my hot list but I am curious about any that you do happen to test. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Non-Primary (backup) Internet Services

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We do it. No contract. We will want to install the hardware and make sure that we're set up as backup only. Like you, if usage goes higher than we think backup should they'll get billed a full account till they get the main account working right again. Having said that, normally ours is the

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Matt
We do this today with Mikrotik routers.  Don't need the bgp part of it for just a backup service. Pretty sure this 'wont' work without BGP if you want your clients public IP's to be directly accessable. WISPA

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Jeremie Chism
I would want to maintain basic surfing and VoIP traffic. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: We do this today with Mikrotik routers. Don't need the bgp part of it for just a backup service. Pretty sure this 'wont' work without BGP if you want

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rules atanamazingheight...

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OY! I can't even watch that video. Those guys are just plain nuts. marlon - Original Message - From: Mark Robinson mark...@mindspring.com To: Tom Osborne w7...@frontier.com Cc: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Breaking all the

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Sorry, nope. If I told ya I'd have to. Oh OK, I don't know how it gets done. Butch handles all of that kind of programming for me. He can help you with the config. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's for a backup. Different than BGP. For our customers it's used when the choice is slower alternate internet vs. no internet. Yeah, the people that still need outside access have to know both possible IP addys. More likely they just get a few hours off. grin marlon - Original

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
If you're handing out public IPs to customers then you will need to run BGP to properly failover between multiple upstreams. Most ISPs require you purchase a dedicated circuit before they will run BGP with you. If all of your customers are behind NAT then you don't need BGP. With NAT failover

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, the people that still need outside access have to know both possible IP addys. More likely they just get a few hours off. grin This can be solved by utilizing a dynamic DNS service. -- Blake Covarrubias

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rules atanamazingheight...

2010-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
We've had several threads on this. Scary every time I watch it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: OY!  I can't even watch that video. Those guys are

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
well today there are multiple ways to do this... which don't have to involve BGP. However you would need some dynamic routing protocol.. RIP/OSPF etc.. But can be done via active scripts that modify static routes as well. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami,

Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Breaking all the tower climbing rulesatanamazingheight...

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...the Morse is unusual...I thought I heard the German umlaut U in the beginning (with the two dots over it) as DI DI DAH DAH which isn't Morse for anything in our alphabet. I wonder where this was made. . . . j o n a t h a n W8BZB -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Chadd Thompson
I am far from a Mikrotik guru but from what I know you would need to assign private IP's to your network to be able to do this as a fail over or as load balancing without BGP. I don't know of any DSL providers who will do BGP. Chadd -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] DSL BGP

2010-12-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Okay, So there is a whole bunch of IF's and's or but's here... Some assumptions:- If you are the Service Provider for the DSL service and the Alternate / Wireless, then obviously there there some options ... However, most cases, the other connection (it could be cable or dsl or t1, it does

Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-01 Thread Robert West
Look at 900MHz. It's my understanding that 900MHz is crazy good over water. Albert- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Philip Dorr
instead of the dedicated hardware you could use the AirView utility in a Ubuquti M series product. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://ubnt.com/airview - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/1/2010

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Robert West
An FM radio? You seem to be as weird as I. We both have no life. :( -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Thanks, Robert, as I said..some years ago. It was probably 10 years ago or more when it was a Bay/Nortel pre-802.11 Wi-Fi. I sold my company to them 5 years before that. Anyway, at that time, everything was new and old-time trouble shooting was useful. We used to trouble shoot computers

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Robert West
Yep. We're both O L D Happens. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month Thanks, Robert, as I

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Robert West
You rock, by the way. Good or bad, who knows...! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

2010-12-01 Thread Rubens Kuhl
If you have 100% Fresnel Zone 1 clearance, instead of 60% FZ1 which is the usual parameter over land, you are probably good to go. As these sites are more prone to rust, I would strongly prefer integrated units instead of dish antennas; Ubiquiti Powerbridge M comes to mind, both because not

Re: [WISPA] Weird one of the month

2010-12-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Thanks. It's not old. It's just years. I've been a ham for about 60 years and ran 25 yearly Marathons until 5 years ago (overcoming having been in an iron lung at the end of WWII and deciding to fix it... finally). When I start talking about grandkids or pets...please stop me. I hate that.

[WISPA] California WISP meeting

2010-12-01 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Hi, For those of you not on the California list that may be interested, here are the details on the upcoming meeting... Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010 Location: Domain Hotel, Sunnyvale, CA http://www.jdvhotels.com/hotels/siliconvalley/domain Rooms are available at $79/night. Schedule: 8:30

Re: [WISPA] California WISP meeting

2010-12-01 Thread Rick Harnish
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3469 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:49 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] California WISP meeting Hi, For those

[WISPA] where is Meraki a good fit?

2010-12-01 Thread Rogelio
A friend of mine has Meraki through a provider here in CA, and I'm curious what others think about them and their niche (particularly those who have found a great niche). Personally, I don't see a solution like this taking off unless there is the right demographic (poorer areas, underserved