Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm a firm believer in never upgrading an OS. Clean install every time. Windows, Linux, sometimes Android (well, reset, not re-install). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Fred Goldstein" To: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 10/17/2013 10:08 PM, Clay Stewart wrote: Offer service to upgrade for $99... WIN7 plus labor? Remember, there is no upgrade from XP to Win7. It has to be a clean install, wiping out existing embedded software installation. (Now why embedded software even exists is a different story, but

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Blair Davis
For those who do computer repair, there is a good opportunity there. But we closed our repair shop when my business partner retired. I don't have time to do it. And, IMO, it is not a job for someone at the installer level. Let alone the fact that doing it on-site is a major time waster. --

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Clay Stewart
Offer service to upgrade for $99... WIN7 plus labor? On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > That was why I brought it up. > > I don't believe we can force users off XP. > Obviously, proper port blocking helps. Placing your XP users on source > NAT'ed IP's might help. > > Are th

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Eric Tykwinski
It's called security through obscurity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity The problem is I don't think XP has quite reached that level as compared to VMS, Amiga, NextStep, et al... Though SneakerNet, like you say is a different matter... I'm sure there are still Kiosks, S

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Blair Davis
Us too. They are isolated from the internet, but we still have them doing things. -- On 10/17/2013 7:59 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I still run Windows 2000 on some computers. :) Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2013, at 16:56, Blair Davis > wrote: That was why I broug

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Matt Hoppes
I still run Windows 2000 on some computers. :) Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2013, at 16:56, Blair Davis wrote: > That was why I brought it up. > > I don't believe we can force users off XP. > Obviously, proper port blocking helps. Placing your XP users on source > NAT'ed IP's might help.

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Blair Davis
That was why I brought it up. I don't believe we can force users off XP. Obviously, proper port blocking helps. Placing your XP users on source NAT'ed IP's might help. Are there other options? Packet filtering? Email filtering? Something else? -- On 10/17/2013 6:31 PM, Clay Stewart w

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Questioin

2013-10-17 Thread Clay Stewart
We are running plans up to 5M/2M at 10CW with no issues on APs with up to 30. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Greg Osborn wrote: > We are limiting to 30 with 10mhz cw. Packages from 1m/256k to 3m/768k. > Somewhere around there, we start getting complaints. > > ** ** > > *From:* wireless-

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Clay Stewart
That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users off XP? When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy hackers and spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches), we will suffer too... in our networks. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn wrote: > It wor

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Coenraad Loubser
Getting your users to just use Firefox or Chrome will prolong the life of their XP boxes. An light footprint anti-virus perhaps even more so, if the machine can handle it. Most exploits come in through IE. Your sysadmin should be able to detect IE and/or XP on proxy logs, if you really care, and w

Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Questioin

2013-10-17 Thread Greg Osborn
We are limiting to 30 with 10mhz cw. Packages from 1m/256k to 3m/768k. Somewhere around there, we start getting complaints. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stewart Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subjec

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti radios failing?

2013-10-17 Thread Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
I see that a lot on the XR cards after storms in my area. Might be bad TX output or bad RX input numbers. I've changed a lot of cards this year because of a similar issue to yours. marlon -Original Message- From: Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:54 AM To: wireles

Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

2013-10-17 Thread Greg Osborn
It works itself out…… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 5:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Windows XP Well, it won't be working for lo