Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Jon Langeler
What's some of the selling points with Fortigate? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On May 12, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mike Francis wrote: > > We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will send you > a quote. > > Thank you, > John Michael Francis II > JMF Solutions,

Re: [WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Mike Francis
We are a Forigate partner and do a lot of Fortigate business. I will send you a quote. Thank you, John Michael Francis II JMF Solutions, Inc Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud INC 5000 #2593 CRN Fast Growth #105 251-517-5069 http://jmfsolutions.net http://wavefly.com "People are unreasonable, i

[WISPA] Source for Fortigate reseller

2017-05-12 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Need a quote for 30 FortiWifi-30E units Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wis

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread garrettshankle
Based on that interpretation Dish and Dierct-tv would not be completely exempt as they use power over Coax for some of their technology. Hughesnet and Exeede would certainly be affected as well. That would completely destroy their cheap contractor business model. This is honestly hilarious.

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Tim Cailloux
What's the differentiation for CATV? Are they assuming it's analog? There are very few 100% analog CATV systems left, and they're going away. So, even they'll have a Set-Top Box connected to coax and AC power at the same time. Then what's the distinction between that and having the analog CATV c

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Brett A Mansfield
So if this is correct, my installers have to be licensed electricians? Or is the consensus that we are exempt? If I have to hire licensed electricians for the installs it's going to be very expensive and I'll have to stop waiving install fees. Based on what I've seen though we are excluded. Tha

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread James Wilson
Maybe the device can be considered the POE injector? On May 12, 2017 1:42 PM, "Paul McNary" wrote: > So does that indicate that Dish and direct tv will also not be exempt in > his interpretation? > > Paul > > On 5/12/2017 12:32 PM, Mitch wrote: > > Just got off the phone with our local State Ins

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Paul McNary
So does that indicate that Dish and direct tv will also not be exempt in his interpretation? Paul On 5/12/2017 12:32 PM, Mitch wrote: Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power from inside the property it is located at t

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Mitch
Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt (such as telco and CATV). If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property then it is NOT exempt. This is how

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread garrettshankle
Considering V.A. doesn't have a separate certification for low voltage, I certainly hope we're excluded. It would be difficult to get all of our technicians though a 3 year apprenticeship as required by law for a full certification. -Original Message- From: "Matt Hoppes" Sent: Frida

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Josh Luthman
B not covered 4 installation of communications equipment I'm reading it same as Matt... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Ummm. We are exclus

Re: [WISPA] Query to the group

2017-05-12 Thread garrettshankle
IIRC the mac address randomizing code was[ half-baked and not random enough ]( https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/mac_address_randomization/ ) to be anonymous. Android more or less gave up on the feature and it's hardly implemented at all. But either way it's not a brand issue it's acro

Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Matt Hoppes
Ummm. We are exclusively excluded. You even highlighted it. > On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch wrote: > > Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians > for everything and anything that connects to a power source > Am I reading wrong? > > > NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE >

[WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

2017-05-12 Thread Mitch
Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians for everything and anything that connects to a power source Am I reading wrong? NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE 90.2 Scope. (A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical conductors, equipment, and raceways; s

Re: [WISPA] Query to the group

2017-05-12 Thread Murray Freeman
have a look at this https://wigle.net/ Murray On 5/11/2017 1:04 AM, Chris Stradtman wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking to this group to feel out the feasibility of an idea. I'm working with a project that is looking at doing a sort of "analytics". One of the possible things this would involv