[WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread wispa
I spent some time reading the latest R & O about the 3650 spectrum, which is dated back in 2005. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-56A1.pdf I am, however, unable to understand what the present status is. Does anyone have that information? What's going on...or not goin

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
c IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? I spent some time reading the latest R & O abou

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
That's an age old question. Anyone have any ideas what's up with it? - Jeff On 3/2/07 1:29 AM, "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I spent some time reading the latest R & O about the 3650 spectrum, which is > dated back in 2005. > > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-0

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread wispa
ly" certification, we're going back to the "must buy only the big boy's solutions" which...may never exist, as you say. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > - Original Message - > From: &quo

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
TED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:30:38 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote 3650 is complicated. Last month's FCC visit stated that they are getting close, and expect answe

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread John Scrivner
m: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:30:38 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote 3650 is complicated. Last month's FCC visit stated that

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread wispa
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:51:00 -0600, John Scrivner wrote If that's Twomey's word, then that's better than giving Bullit 200 bucks, or whatever the price of his "manual" is. I merely wanted to see what backhauls worked like in the absense of noise, but I did want to load them with real life traf

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-02 Thread Jack Unger
You might want to ask him. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what&#x

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-03 Thread RickG
; Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? > > >

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread John Valenti
I heard back from a Ubiquiti salesperson yesterday (working Sunday!), they expect to start shipping the XR3 cards this month. http://www.ubnt.com/xtreme_range3.php4 I guess they are claiming that 802.11 is the "contention protocol". I might check out a pair, we'll see how they are priced. Aft

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
28 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Valenti Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:03 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? I heard back from a

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread George Rogato
So what your saying Patrick is, It's ok, we should go and buy some of these things and do some testing, right? :) George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
3650, ok, so what's current status? So what your saying Patrick is, It's ok, we should go and buy some of these things and do some testing, right? :) George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org ***

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Mark McElvy
What is STA? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? You are trying to wind me up aren't

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? What is STA? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05,

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Special Temporary Authority. These are tempo

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Jack Unger
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) Speaking to the co

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread George Rogato
Patrick Leary wrote: You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) :) Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in. Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand upon this. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? If I remember correctly (and I hope anyone will jump in here with any necessary corrections to the following) it's a "Special Temporary Authorization". In the "Experimental Radio Service&qu

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
on, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
onage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? If your STA is not for this purpose, its leg

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Subpart D, Operating Requirements, General Limitations 5.151: (1) Stations may make only such transmissions as are necessary and directly related to the conduct of the licensee's stated program of experimentation as

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Jack Unger
Hi John, The Ubiquitu XR3 spec sheet is misleading. As far as I know, there is no current legal license-free 3650 operation allowed, as Ubiquity states. Operation on 3650 can only take place when a Special Temporary Authorization aplication has been submitted to the FCC and an STA approval re

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread John Scrivner
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? So what your saying Patrick is, It's ok, we should go and buy some of these things and do some testing, right? :)

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Patrick Leary
WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what'

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread John Valenti
Jack & Patrick: thanks for all the info on 3650 status. This type of response is why I'm on this mailing list. That March 10, 2005 announcement is near-and-dear to me, since that is what started me on the WISP path. I haven't closely followed the progress on 3650, so when I saw the XR3 info

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread George Rogato
Part-15 org people selling a "help get licensed on 3650 manual" -- their webpage doesn't indicate to me that it is still experimental. http://www.part-15.org/sales/3650manual.asp Catch this from that page: Training Manual Have you looked into using 3650MHz for the security of Interfere

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Jack Unger
John, To learn the propagation characteristics of 3.x GHz gear, testing in the 3300-3500 MHz ham band is clearly the best way to go. Personal experimentation ("advancing the radio art") and performing public service were (and are) the reason that the amateur radio service exists. Of course, w

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
D]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Hi John, The Ubiquitu XR3 spec sheet is misleading. As far as I know, there is no current legal license-free 3650 operation allowed, as Ubiquity states. O

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
There is more than one reason that many of us are here instead of there. marlon - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what'

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread John Scrivner
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Patrick Leary wrote: You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) D

Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-05 Thread wispa
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:40:33 -0500, John Valenti wrote > Jack & Patrick: thanks for all the info on 3650 status. > > This type of response is why I'm on this mailing list. > > That March 10, 2005 announcement is near-and-dear to me, since that > is what started me on the WISP path. I haven't clo

RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status?

2007-03-06 Thread Gino Villarini
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) Speaking to the community at large: The goo