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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> Ruckus Wireless has beamforming (i.e. smart antenna technology)... does it
> on a packet by packet basis. But it's a WiFi system (although from what I
> understand its being deployed overseas now in Muni-Wifi situati
wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
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> Ruckus Wireless has beamforming (i.e. smart antenna technology)..
works
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> Ruckus Wireless has beamforming (i.e. smart antenna technology)... does
> it
> on a packet by packet basis. But it's a WiFi system (altho
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Ruckus Wireless has beamforming (i.e. smart antenna technology)... does
it
on a packet by packet basis. But it's a WiFi system (although from what
I
understand its being deployed overseas now in Muni-Wifi situations... I
just
proposed to someone using Ubq
White
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>Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:40 PM
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> Mike Hammett
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> From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:18 PM
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From: Travis Johnson
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> The exception to the rule would be Canopy. You can't "muck up the airways"
> if every single one of your AP's
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From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> You have to us
nd of sync mechanism the more I like the
idea. As long as EVERYONE syncs the same anyway.
marlon
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From: Travis Johnson
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
The exception to the rule would
: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:21 PM
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Which we know is true thanks to the antenna patterns that I picked apart
a week or so ago that was so kindly provided by Canopy hang alongs. But
any unit with a low gain antenna and high gain radio will do
myself where I'm forced to)
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From: "Mike Hammett"
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:11:57
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
There's a contradiction in terms if I ever saw one... Canopy can&#x
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From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
The exception to the rule would be Canopy. You can't "muck up the airways" if
every single one of your AP's
out with low powered systems over the
>> years.
>> Reliability and performance always goes up. I can think of NO
>> exceptions to
>> that rule.
>>
>> marlon
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Doesn't it stand for "effective isotropic radiated power"? Isn't your
EIRP the same no matter what rec
part of the
rules, the max output power could be lower than 42 watts.)
laters,
marlon
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
EIRP is a TRANSMIT number. "Equiv
d people into swapping out with low powered systems over the
> years.
> Reliability and performance always goes up. I can think of NO
> exceptions to
> that rule.
>
> marlon
>
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> Doesn't it stand for "effective isotropic radiated power"? Isn't your
> EIRP the same no matter what receive antenna is o
n the rules.
But all of these stupid, noisy, wasteful, cpe systems with 1 watt radios and
19dB panels make a mess of your networks. (and mine)
marlon
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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:50 AM
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3:28 PM
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Sounds like a case for using 3.65 for your BH links. Good engineering
around channel assignment and width and polarity would give you a lot of
combinations.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> Doesn't it stand for "effective isotropic radiated power"? Isn't your
> EIRP the same no matter what receive antenna is on the other end?
>
> I get your point, to have a sufficiently strong signal at the distant
> re
; marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett"
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> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
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>
>> 30 dB EIRP with a 44 DBi antenna on each side over 73 miles
stems with 1 watt radios and
19dB panels make a mess of your networks. (and mine)
marlon
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From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> 30 dB EIRP with a 44 D
got 3 links of them out there. I do have trouble when they start to max
out, but other than that they just run and run and run.
Great people there too.
marlon
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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:30
: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
OK I get it - make it up on the Rx side.
So we need to find the elusive wooly-haired negative db DFS compliant
radio. Who makes such an animal?
Jerry
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Behalf Of Mike
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> OK I get it - make it up on the Rx side.
>
> So we need to find the elusive wooly-haired negative db DFS compliant
> radio. Who makes such an animal?
>
> Jerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: w
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:30 PM
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> OK I get it - make it up on the Rx side.
>
> So we need to find the elusive wooly-haired negative db DFS compliant
> radio. Who makes such an animal?
>
> Jerry
>
, October 31, 2009 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
A 44 dB antenna (yes, they make them). Some radios can be set to negative
dB, so if a radio could be set as far as -14 and was certified with it...
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, October 31, 2009 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Ok, so maybe 40 miles is out, seeing is how my links are only 12. I was
looking at 5.4 solutions because my 3 mile hops have lots of 5.8 and I
am running out of spectrum. Without frequency reuse via GPS or
Jerry Richardson"
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:52 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> 40 miles @ 5.4?
>
> How is that possible with a 30dB EIRP max limit? Sure you could use a 36dB
> dish but I can't see how you can turn the power
: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
40 miles @ 5.4?
How is that possible with a 30dB EIRP max limit? Sure you could use a
36dB dish but I can't see how you can turn the power down enough to stay
in compliance.
Jerry
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Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Well, depending on what the radio was certified with, you could
theoretically go 40 miles in 5.4 GHz. I'm not sure I'd put those antennas
on a Rohn 25, though. :-p
M
9 11:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Man...what is the EIRP on these links that people are posting high bit rates?
As someone else stated, gotta wonder if the FCC won't start getting suspicious
at some point.
Travis Johnson wrote:
73 miles... and I g
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From: "Eric Rogers"
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:30 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
> Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others. We cur
Networks
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik
Man...what is the EIRP on these links that people are posting high bit
rates? As someone else stated, gotta wonder if the FCC won't start
getting suspicious at some point.
Travis Johnson wrote:
73 miles... and I get 28Mbps total (14Mbps each direction) using a
20mhz channel.
Travis
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and
73 miles... and I get 28Mbps total (14Mbps each direction) using a
20mhz channel.
Travis
Josh Luthman wrote:
Travis is getting 28 megs on a really long backhaul - like 58 miles?
You will not see >30.
On 10/31/09, Eric Rogers wrote:
Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experien
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Rogers
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others. We currently
have a Mikrotik ba
ers
>Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:31 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
>
>Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others. We currently
>have a Mikrotik backhaul between each of our towers using NStreme and we
>have been extremely h
We are seeing 60 Mbps HDX TCP with the Ubiquiti Rockets in 20MHz. One
small problem is there appear to be some odd OSPF issues on some of
our links. Still trying to figure them out though as they may not be
Ubiquiti related.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> Travis is gett
Travis is getting 28 megs on a really long backhaul - like 58 miles?
You will not see >30.
On 10/31/09, Eric Rogers wrote:
> Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others. We currently
> have a Mikrotik backhaul between each of our towers using NStreme and we
> have been extremely h
Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others. We currently
have a Mikrotik backhaul between each of our towers using NStreme and we
have been extremely happy with the performance. We recently upgraded a
tower because we were hitting 15M or so during peak times and was afraid
it could
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