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That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said
like a dollar forty?
On Dec 15, 2010 1:29
Thinking a bit about ATMail now.
http://www.atmail.com/linux-email-server/
Seems pretty feature rich.
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> If the disk space requirements allow go buy some large SSD Intel drives and
your disk IO problem will likely go away.
>
> I don't buy anything but SSD any more unless I can't fit what I need on one.
W
> If the disk space requirements allow go buy some large SSD Intel drives and
> your disk IO problem will likely go away.
>
> I don't buy anything but SSD any more unless I can't fit what I need on one.
> We have a larger one I put in our mail server and its not a fast machine but
> the perform
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 16:03, Matt wrote:
> > http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp
> >
> > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year.
>
> I am hearing to switch to google all my users must change there SMTP
> and POP3 settings to point at google. Ugh, not gonna h
ormance of the SSD made up for it then some. Just a
thought...
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: "Matt"
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Email Accounts
Our c
We converted 2500 accounts...1-2 weeks of calls about turning on ssl...
Regards,
Chuck
On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Matt wrote:
>> Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name. Did you think Google
>> was going to put a server in your facility?
>> Regards,
>
> Asked that, was told no.
> Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name. Did you think Google
> was going to put a server in your facility?
> Regards,
Asked that, was told no. Wanted to just use a cname to point at them.
Don't think a cname is allowed on an MX though. Wanted to use an
aname to just point at the
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> http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp
>
> .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year.
I am hearing to switch to google all my users must
Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name. Did you think Google
was going to put a server in your facility?
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Matt wrote:
> > http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp
> >
> > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user pe
> http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp
>
> .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year.
I am hearing to switch to google all my users must change there SMTP
and POP3 settings to point at google. Ugh, not gonna happen.
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gotcha
have a few setup for a client - never saw that stuff @ all.
Might want to peek @ the kernel your using - 1.7 has a few updates that should
help a ton.
Like anything - its always the little stuff :-)
On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> oh, I had CPU usage issues. Basic Z
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That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said
like a dollar forty?
On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" <mailto:c
>>> We have tons of templates from Cacti, WHMCS, cPanel, Zimbra, PRoxMox
>>>> AntiSpam and others - well worth the testing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>>>
he storage is simply virtual machines.
EUREKA!
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Th
It uses like 300k
>>> of memory and you can run it from a USB thumbdrive and all the storage is
>>> simply virtual machines.
>>>
>>> EUREKA!
>>>
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That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said
like a d
It is important to note KVM is actually part of the linux kernel.
KVM stands for Kernel Virtual Machine
Since it is part of the kernel - it makes running it much more simple.
Unlike Xen and others - (i like xen btw) - you do not need to worry about the
kernel on an upgrade killing your ability
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
>
> That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a
> dollar forty?
>
> On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote:
> > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $5
RHEL/CentOS/Fedora switched from Xen to KVM
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm not sure if any other
> methods are working their way into current releases.
>
> OpenVZ (managed through ProxMox) is a great way to host many
> resource
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a
dollar forty?
On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote:
> On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quot
That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a
dollar forty?
On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote:
> On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per
year
> (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to
me.
> Peopl
port
From: Mike Hammett
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:42:36 -0600
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm not sure if any other
methods are working their way into current releases.
OpenVZ (manage
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I use Proxmox and love it.
OpenVZ is the way to go. It's an amazing piece of software. Combine it
with Proxmox and you get everything VmWare offers for free.
On 12/15/2010 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm
Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm not sure if any other
methods are working their way into current releases.
OpenVZ (managed through ProxMox) is a great way to host many
resource-lite containers. There's only 2 - 3% overhead and they can
really add up low use servers. If you're no
Send Shaun an email...tell him Chuck Hogg from Shelby Broadband sent
you...he'll take care of ya.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe he's
> an idiot.
>
> Cameron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010
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From: Cameron Crum
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:43:54 -0600
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I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe
I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe he's
an idiot.
Cameron
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> You need to get with the Partner edition. If you join FISPA the pricing is
> better, but I think the advertised price is .35/mailbox/year.
>
> My
You need to get with the Partner edition. If you join FISPA the pricing is
better, but I think the advertised price is .35/mailbox/year.
My rep is
Shaun Hogan
s...@ikano.com
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quo
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On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year
(that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's prett
On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year
(that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to me.
People complain about the price of our software which does a ton of stuff at
less than $1/month/sub.
Cameron
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, M
We are hosting 10,000 email accounts on a single box running Linux with
Postfix. Using 4GB of RAM and a simple RAID10 config with SATA drives.
Travis
Microserv
On 12/15/2010 8:38 AM, Matt wrote:
> Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
> getting to be an issue on it
t VMware and their support. Dell
support has been fantastic too.
Best,
Brad
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> Great stuff...can't say enough good about VMware and their support. Dell
> support has been fantastic too.
I think Redhat uses KVM?
http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/
Imagine it will work its way into CentOS soon. How does it compare to VMware?
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I think it really depends on your load. A client of mine has a 1500+
acc
Anyone used iRedMail?
http://www.iredmail.org/
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I think it really depends on your load. A client of mine has a 1500+
account Exchange installation and everything there is virtualized. I
think it just depends on your infrastructure, hardware, load balancing, etc.
I haven't reached that much volume, however, to know myself how that
pans out.
> I put everything on virtual servers. There's no reinstallation,
> reconfiguration, etc. required to migrate to new hardware. Just install
> on the host OS on a new box and migrate the container over.
I have heard that for I/O intensive applications they are not a good
choice. Email is definit
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I put everything on virtual servers. There's no reinstallation,
reconfiguration, etc. req
I put everything on virtual servers. There's no reinstallation,
reconfiguration, etc. required to migrate to new hardware. Just install
on the host OS on a new box and migrate the container over.
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On 12/15/2010 9:38 AM,
, 15 Dec 2010 09:38:01 -0600
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Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 accounts. Likely
just going to move current solution to a bigger and newer RAID array.
Before
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:54:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts
+1 on Google... tech support for email has about gone away.
Regards,
Chuck
I get a call every few months, for one thing or another (forgotten
password, forgotten email address, etc). I wish mine had gone away,
but I sure can't complain how minimal it is now.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 15,
+1 on Google... tech support for email has about gone away.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Kevin Neal wrote:
> Icewarp here. There are some that don't like it, personally, I
> haven't had to "adjust" any server settings for several years.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 201
We do our own email too with linux and just upgraded some stuff for the
same and similar issues. Old box: amd64x2 or phenom9500 with
postfix/amavisdnew/clamav/spamassassin spamd/spamc. New box: phenom
1075t, postfix/clamsmtp/clamav/spamassassin spamd/spamc/usermin. A new
seagate enterprise hard
Icewarp here. There are some that don't like it, personally, I
haven't had to "adjust" any server settings for several years.
-Kevin
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Matt wrote:
> Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
> getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about
We use fasthosts.com. 50.00 per month for unlimited standard email accounts.
9.95 per year for advanced.
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On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Matt wrote:
> Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
> getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 acco
We do Gmail. Cheap, it works, next to no support cost.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Matt wrote:
> Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
> getting to be an issue on
We've been very happy with MagicMail by LinuxMagic. Solid platform and
the support is very good.
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
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On 12/15/2010 9:38 AM, Matt wrote:
> Our current ema
Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is
getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 accounts. Likely
just going to move current solution to a bigger and newer RAID array.
Before I do that thought I would ask what other solutions are out
there? Prefer to keep it i
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