Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-19 Thread John Thomas
less-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*on Behalf Of*Josh Luthman *Sent:*Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a dollar forty? On Dec 15, 2010 1:29

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
Thinking a bit about ATMail now. http://www.atmail.com/linux-email-server/ Seems pretty feature rich. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Justin Wilson
10:04:37 -0600 To: , WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts > If the disk space requirements allow go buy some large SSD Intel drives and your disk IO problem will likely go away. > > I don't buy anything but SSD any more unless I can't fit what I need on one.  W

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
> If the disk space requirements allow go buy some large SSD Intel drives and > your disk IO problem will likely go away. > > I don't buy anything but SSD any more unless I can't fit what I need on one.  > We have a larger one I put in our mail server and its not a fast machine but > the perform

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 16:03, Matt wrote: > > http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp > > > > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year. > > I am hearing to switch to google all my users must change there SMTP > and POP3 settings to point at google. Ugh, not gonna h

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Scott Carullo
ormance of the SSD made up for it then some. Just a thought... Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: "Matt" Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Email Accounts Our c

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
We converted 2500 accounts...1-2 weeks of calls about turning on ssl... Regards, Chuck On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Matt wrote: >> Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name. Did you think Google >> was going to put a server in your facility? >> Regards, > > Asked that, was told no.

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
> Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name.  Did you think Google > was going to put a server in your facility? > Regards, Asked that, was told no. Wanted to just use a cname to point at them. Don't think a cname is allowed on an MX though. Wanted to use an aname to just point at the

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
y-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:03:35 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts > http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp > > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year. I am hearing to switch to google all my users must

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
Just change your DNS Settings for your domain name. Did you think Google was going to put a server in your facility? Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Matt wrote: > > http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp > > > > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user pe

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
> http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp > > .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year. I am hearing to switch to google all my users must change there SMTP and POP3 settings to point at google. Ugh, not gonna happen. ---

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
gotcha have a few setup for a client - never saw that stuff @ all. Might want to peek @ the kernel your using - 1.7 has a few updates that should help a ton. Like anything - its always the little stuff :-) On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > oh, I had CPU usage issues. Basic Z

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
.org]*on Behalf Of*Josh Luthman *Sent:*Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a dollar forty? On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" <mailto:c

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
>>> We have tons of templates from Cacti, WHMCS, cPanel, Zimbra, PRoxMox >>>> AntiSpam and others - well worth the testing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote: >>>>

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
he storage is simply virtual machines. EUREKA! *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*on Behalf Of*Josh Luthman *Sent:*Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts Th

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
It uses like 300k >>> of memory and you can run it from a USB thumbdrive and all the storage is >>> simply virtual machines. >>> >>> EUREKA! >>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]*on Behalf Of*Josh Luthman *Sent:*Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM *To:*WISPA General List *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a d

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
It is important to note KVM is actually part of the linux kernel. KVM stands for Kernel Virtual Machine Since it is part of the kernel - it makes running it much more simple. Unlike Xen and others - (i like xen btw) - you do not need to worry about the kernel on an upgrade killing your ability

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Glenn Kelley
ral List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts > > That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a > dollar forty? > > On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $5

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Jon Auer
RHEL/CentOS/Fedora switched from Xen to KVM On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen.  I'm not sure if any other > methods are working their way into current releases. > > OpenVZ (managed through ProxMox) is a great way to host many > resource

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Andy Trimmell
: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a dollar forty? On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quot

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Josh Luthman
That's for premier. You want partner, like an ISP. Someone said like a dollar forty? On Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year > (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to me. > Peopl

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
port From: Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:42:36 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm not sure if any other methods are working their way into current releases. OpenVZ (manage

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Charles N Wyble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use Proxmox and love it. OpenVZ is the way to go. It's an amazing piece of software. Combine it with Proxmox and you get everything VmWare offers for free. On 12/15/2010 11:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Historically, RHEL\CentOS have used Xen. I'm not sure if any other methods are working their way into current releases. OpenVZ (managed through ProxMox) is a great way to host many resource-lite containers. There's only 2 - 3% overhead and they can really add up low use servers. If you're no

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
Send Shaun an email...tell him Chuck Hogg from Shelby Broadband sent you...he'll take care of ya. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe he's > an idiot. > > Cameron > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Cameron Crum Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:43:54 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Cameron Crum
I asked the google rep and he said it is not available anymore...maybe he's an idiot. Cameron On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > You need to get with the Partner edition. If you join FISPA the pricing is > better, but I think the advertised price is .35/mailbox/year. > > My

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
You need to get with the Partner edition. If you join FISPA the pricing is better, but I think the advertised price is .35/mailbox/year. My rep is Shaun Hogan s...@ikano.com Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quo

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
port From: Cameron Crum Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:28:53 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's prett

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Cameron Crum
On the Gmail...how cheap is cheap? They just quoted us $50 per user per year (that's over $4/month per user JUST for email). That's pretty pricey to me. People complain about the price of our software which does a ton of stuff at less than $1/month/sub. Cameron On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM, M

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Travis Johnson
We are hosting 10,000 email accounts on a single box running Linux with Postfix. Using 4GB of RAM and a simple RAID10 config with SATA drives. Travis Microserv On 12/15/2010 8:38 AM, Matt wrote: > Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is > getting to be an issue on it

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Brad Belton
t VMware and their support. Dell support has been fantastic too. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Ac

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
> Great stuff...can't say enough good about VMware and their support.  Dell > support has been fantastic too. I think Redhat uses KVM? http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/server/ Imagine it will work its way into CentOS soon. How does it compare to VMware? --

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
w me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:39:05 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts I think it really depends on your load. A client of mine has a 1500+ acc

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
Anyone used iRedMail? http://www.iredmail.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8CF3RKRm4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I think it really depends on your load. A client of mine has a 1500+ account Exchange installation and everything there is virtualized. I think it just depends on your infrastructure, hardware, load balancing, etc. I haven't reached that much volume, however, to know myself how that pans out.

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
> I put everything on virtual servers.  There's no reinstallation, > reconfiguration, etc. required to migrate to new hardware.  Just install > on the host OS on a new box and migrate the container over. I have heard that for I/O intensive applications they are not a good choice. Email is definit

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Brad Belton
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts I put everything on virtual servers. There's no reinstallation, reconfiguration, etc. req

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
I put everything on virtual servers. There's no reinstallation, reconfiguration, etc. required to migrate to new hardware. Just install on the host OS on a new box and migrate the container over. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/15/2010 9:38 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
, 15 Dec 2010 09:38:01 -0600 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Email Accounts Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 accounts. Likely just going to move current solution to a bigger and newer RAID array. Before

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Justin Wilson
j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Chuck Hogg Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:54:31 -0500 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts +1 on Google... tech support for email has about gone away. Regards, Chuck

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I get a call every few months, for one thing or another (forgotten password, forgotten email address, etc). I wish mine had gone away, but I sure can't complain how minimal it is now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15,

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
+1 on Google... tech support for email has about gone away. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Kevin Neal wrote: > Icewarp here. There are some that don't like it, personally, I > haven't had to "adjust" any server settings for several years. > > -Kevin > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 201

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread jp
We do our own email too with linux and just upgraded some stuff for the same and similar issues. Old box: amd64x2 or phenom9500 with postfix/amavisdnew/clamav/spamassassin spamd/spamc. New box: phenom 1075t, postfix/clamsmtp/clamav/spamassassin spamd/spamc/usermin. A new seagate enterprise hard

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Kevin Neal
Icewarp here. There are some that don't like it, personally, I haven't had to "adjust" any server settings for several years. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Matt wrote: > Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded.  Disk I/O is > getting to be an issue on it.  Hosting about

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Jeremie Chism
We use fasthosts.com. 50.00 per month for unlimited standard email accounts. 9.95 per year for advanced. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Matt wrote: > Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is > getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 acco

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Josh Luthman
We do Gmail. Cheap, it works, next to no support cost. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Matt wrote: > Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded.  Disk I/O is > getting to be an issue on

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Chris Gotstein
We've been very happy with MagicMail by LinuxMagic. Solid platform and the support is very good. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 12/15/2010 9:38 AM, Matt wrote: > Our current ema

[WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-15 Thread Matt
Our current email server is getting a bit over loaded. Disk I/O is getting to be an issue on it. Hosting about 2000 accounts. Likely just going to move current solution to a bigger and newer RAID array. Before I do that thought I would ask what other solutions are out there? Prefer to keep it i