Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-08 Thread jp
Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding A precondition to accepting stimulus money is to submit to an annual

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-08 Thread Brad Belton
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Travis, Yes... and to go a step further, if the business doesn't qualify for a bank loan (or leasing, or whatever

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed... $106,000 loan could have been gotten with a leasing company, without all the government ties and restrictions. Travis Microserv Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS, was one of the first 18 companies to

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Robert West
] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding I used to like Hawaii until I went to Fiji :) On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS, was one of the first 18 companies to receive broadband stimulus money

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread RickG
I agree 110%. Whats the point of getting tied up with them for such a low amount? If you're gonna dance woit the devil, you better make it worthwhile. (ymmv). On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed... $106,000 loan could have

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Scottie Arnett
Sorta funny that Hawaii got the first, being the connection between our current president and all... just an observation. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date:

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Robert West
Arnett Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Sorta funny that Hawaii got the first, being the connection between our current president and all... just an observation. Scottie -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Marco Coelho
Well they did provide the fake Birth Certificate and all! On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Sorta funny that Hawaii got the first, being the connection between our current president and all... just an observation. Scottie -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Travis Johnson
@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed... $106,000 loan could have been gotten with a leasing company, without all the government ties and restrictions. Travis Microserv Matt Larsen

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread RickG
- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed... $106,000 loan could have been gotten with a leasing company, without all

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I suppose if you really want to look at history we could look at how many oil companies and Texas based telecoms sucked up to the government trough during the administration of our last dumb-ass president from Texas and start talking trash.Apparently the Republicans idea of broadband

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
There is a problem with allowing companies being capitalistic? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Capitalism is fine. When an industry segment turns into an oligarchy of monopolistic entities that use their influence in government to severely undermine their competitors and hold back progress in the name of profits - that is no longer capitalism. That is exactly what has happened to the

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Lots I can say...but it will only start an arguement. Is VoIP not competition to phone companies? On 1/7/10, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: Capitalism is fine. When an industry segment turns into an oligarchy of monopolistic entities that use their influence in government to

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Charles Wu
] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Hi, I have to say I'm not impressed... $106,000 loan could have been gotten with a leasing company, without all the government ties

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Lots I can say...but it will only start an arguement. Is VoIP not competition to phone companies? On 1/7/10, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: Capitalism is fine. When an industry segment

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread RickG
Two wrongs dont make a right! On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: I suppose if you really want to look at history we could look at how many oil companies and Texas based telecoms sucked up to the government trough during the administration of our last

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
or justification was. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Brad Belton
Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Travis, But, you and I are grading different topics.. I agree with your point, its questionable whether it was worth accepting the money on those terms. My point

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding A precondition

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Travis Johnson
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Travis, But, you and I are grading different topics.. I agree with your point, its questionable whether it was worth accepting

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding That's part

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread MDK
Thanks for the putdown. -- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Yes... and to go a step further

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Josh Luthman
] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Yes... and to go a step further, if the business doesn't qualify for a bank loan (or leasing, or whatever) then they probably shouldn't be in business in the first place

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Mike Hammett
://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:25 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Capitalism is fine. When an industry

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding Travis, But, you and I are grading different topics.. I agree with your point, its questionable whether it was worth

[WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-06 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS, was one of the first 18 companies to receive broadband stimulus money. Looks like the total scope of the project was also a lot more reasonable than some of the other ones.

Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

2010-01-06 Thread RickG
I used to like Hawaii until I went to Fiji :) On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS, was one of the first 18 companies to receive broadband stimulus money. Looks like the total scope of the