:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:49 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ?
Hi Gino
Been Extremely Busy: http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/kaili_wu.jpg
Now
Brian,
I have a site that been up for a couple years here
http://www.wisp-coop.com/
Take a look see and I will forward you the admin password if you want to
use it
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
I guess I should have read the complete thread before making my last
post :-)
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts)
318-728-8600 - Rayville
318-728-9600
318-376-2562 - cell
Mac Dearman wrote:
Brian,
I have a site that been up
office
812-936-2006fax
812-521-1876cell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
I'll make some calls
Now there's an optimistic view, thanks Charles. But sometimes true,
Original message
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:25:36 -0600
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
snip
You
Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think, if we can save some
money, good.
Ron Wallace
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
To: WISPA General List wireless
: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the
distrobuters
and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs and we all
want
to buy ten units of *insert brand here* and have them all shipped
frankly, if I'm buying them for 50% off, I'll buy a spare for every 50
units I buy. failure rate on moto's is about 1 in 100
Travis Johnson wrote:
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the group name,
so how do you handle warranty issues?
Travis
Microserv
Charles Wu wrote:
Warranty? what warranty? Do you all really have warranty problems.
Switch vendors. :-)
Moto doesn't have a warranty program. They die, you throw them away.
Returning them to my x-distributor resulted in the same thing. They lost
the returns. Screw it. Buy cheap and manage your own warranty. If
Like I said 1 to 100 failures. Usually we drop them from a roof, or run
one over.. Often times they still work, but often they don't Its a piece
of plastic housing with a single board inside. You can get a replacement
case for $15 as I recall. Nice to have a few around for demo to
customers.
I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of
backhuals with a 500 pack and other promos.. They change from time to
time, whomever wants to run with it will have to make some calls. once
we go underground on this deal, we can have a couple of teleconferences,
and I'll cough
: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization
- From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
the organization
]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
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snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
/snip
We
I believe we can make it happen. Pretty much, few of us will go in and
buy together. Probably going to just be a small group to stay under
moto's radar. Enough to get a 100 pack at a time.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I like the 100 pack - but Mote sometimes gives away a couple of
backhuals with
Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
the organization
Wireless Broadband
- Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends
I know you don't support the idea of group buys.
It's not that I don't support the concept, truthfully, I could care less
whether you buy your gear from a distributor, reseller, or direct from the
manufacturer
I have just seen it implemented (rather unsuccessfully) many times by ISPs
such as
I'm getting a lot of interest off list on the group idea. Can anyone
(principal member) set up a mail server for use to talk about this.
ASAP!
Thanks
Brian
Charles Wu wrote:
I know you don't support the idea of group buys.
It's not that I don't support the concept,
Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my
naysaying wrong
However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL PROTECTED]), I
predict
the following 2 outcomes will occur:
1. Brian will not be able to get enough interest / coordination / payment
for the
What club are you talking about Charles?
I predict you'll be asking Brian to participate in the next buy Charles. :-)
Charles Wu wrote:
Brian, I commend you on taking the initiative and (hopefully) proving my
naysaying wrong
However, waving my magic wand (or maybe I'm just full of @[EMAIL
Yes, (joke) let's assure ourselves that all things are motivated by
increasing one individual's bank account vs. the group's membership's
benefits. Part of the reason I'm not participating in Part 15 et.al. is
that the organizers of any membership benefit have to do so with the
assumption that
That would be great. People are asking me about 5.2, 5.7, 2.4, as well
as 900. I just want 900 for now. If we get a place to talk about it,
someone else can coordinate the same with each product.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
Brian,
I'll see if can do this shortly.
-Alex
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
You should be getting a notice of the mailing list creation. Will walk
through the list manager steps and get you the listmanger's account
information. Will be using rfarc.org as the base address - a local
non-profit ham radio domain that has private list features. Let's see
how it goes.
I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for
$500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were
$250. ha!
I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to
get the listserver doing precisely what it should.
Brian Rohrbacher
Your a good man.
A. Huppenthal wrote:
I like the recent post about monitors too. Frankly the BND stuff for
$500 is good, but I'd use at least twice as much of it :-) if it were
$250. ha!
I sent you a note directly, I'll hang in there for a while tonight to
get the listserver doing
The list server is running, Brian is working on the final setup / config.
Sorry, its I thought I could do it in just an hour, but I've never set
this software up before so it took 2 hours.
I'm guessing the list will be up and running.
Any suggestions on how we can confirm that the person
:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
/snip
We all know that there's more
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the group name,
so how do you handle warranty issues?
Travis
Microserv
Charles Wu wrote:
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it.
First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200
some bucks and support the industry.
Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but
prolly 100 pack to start)
Third step. Go to
Well, I'm not a Canopy user, but am close to making the leap. (would
have done it long time ago if gear was a reasonable price)
Whoever buys the gear. Group name or Joe Blow.
Attention Canopy users how are warranty issues handled? If I buy gear
on ebay can I send it into Moto for
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
/snip
We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and
getting a T1 line
.
Well said.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
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@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices
snip
You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up
eating
the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a
volume club.
/snip
We all know that there's more
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