On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 09:52, Roman wrote:
> I would like to ask for help of wireless community.
> We have to choose supplier of core router for our WISP projects. I know
> technical characteristics and price for core routers from Cisco - 7200 and
> 7600 series. Although these models have impressi
100% sure I would go Mikrotik. The interface is just so unbeatable when it
comes to the firewall, it does all the functions you need in this
application.
Inside most will suggest x86
Outside most will suggest the 1x00 Routerboard
Josh Luthman
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On 7/6/2011 10:52, Roman wrote:
> I would like to ask for help of wireless community.
> We have to choose supplier of core router for our WISP projects. I know
> technical characteristics and price for core routers from Cisco - 7200 and
> 7600 series. Although these models have impressive possibili
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From: Bryan Fields
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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:05:10 -0400
To: WISPA General List
Cc: Roman
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP
On 7/6/2011 10:52, Roman wrote:
> I would like to ask for help of wireless community.
>
What I would like to get at this stage is not actual configuration for
one-time project. I need some "rule-of-thumb" in order to apply it for all
of my projects to get budget calculation.
For example, for projects with not more than 200 subscribers and 10 Mbps
backhaul you advise to use configurati
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Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when really
pushing 10 gig interfaces. We'll be needing them before too much
longer!
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent
At 7/6/2011 04:02 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when
>really pushing 10 gig interfaces. We'll be needing them before too
>much longer!
Has anyone here used Vyatta? They are the high end of open source
routers, and have 10G interfaces.
My opinion is if you are trusting your network to an open source
solution
you are taking a lot of faith it will be there tomorrow. Trolling message
boards for help when a network supporting 10Gigs of traffic is failing
doesn't sound like much fun.
I would stick with Mikrotik, Cis
Not trying to be trollish, but I would trust Vyatta's support way more than
Mikrotik.
The fact is Mikrotik, Imagestream, and Vyatta are all built largely on open
source components.
Out of the three Mikrotik appears to not participate and takes advantage of
open source developments put forth by
At 7/6/2011 04:18 PM, Justin wrote:
> My opinion is if you are trusting your network to an open
> source solution
>you are taking a lot of faith it will be there tomorrow. Trolling message
>boards for help when a network supporting 10Gigs of traffic is failing
>doesn't sound like much fun
Mikrotik support proper isn't as user friendly, but if it isn't a
software\hardware bug, they have excellent consultants available to fix
you up.
If it is a bug, good luck getting them to admit it.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 7/6/2011 3:34 PM,
Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP
Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when
really pushing 10 gig interfaces. We'll be needing th
Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP
I have used Imagestream routers in what I would consider carrier
situations. Have had Imagestreams in VRRP running multiple BGP full feeds
and Gigs of traffic
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I have used Imagestream routers in what I would consider carrier
situations. Have had Ima
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Can it do linespeed on those?
I'd say within 18 months, I&
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Can it do linespeed on those?
I'd say within 18 m
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:01 PM
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What I would like to get at this stage is not actual configuration for
one-time project. I need some &q
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> What I would like to get at this stage is not actual configuration for
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Hi Bryan,
I'm sorry that your ImageStream experience was not what we strive for. I can
assure you that it was not typical. We count our ISP customers in the
hundreds...everything from small to ones with thousands of customers. We can
fully saturate GigE connections with most packet sizes. W
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Imagestream has been very good to us as well. Every bit the “Cisco
experience”, but at a fraction of the cost. Re
DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Kevin Sullivan
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:04 PM
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We've had trouble with Im
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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:10 PM
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Roman,
If you would like to give me a call, I will set you up a read only account on
a live running Powerouter 732 and give you a quick tour of Mikrotik RouterOS.
Th
To clarify.
1) Linux routers are plenty good for Enterprise. My point was that its a
harder sell to sell them a product they dont know, when there could be many
third party trusted advisors chiming in with an opinion that contradicts yours.
But no doubt Linux routers can be very power and
+1 on point number 1. I've heard the phrase many times "nobody every got fired
for buying Cisco".
Greg
On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> To clarify.
>
> 1) Linux routers are plenty good for Enterprise. My point was that its a
> harder sell to sell them a product they dont
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when
> really pushing 10 gig interfaces. We'll be needing them before too
> much longer!
I have 10G interfaces available with RouterOS.
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ImageStream offers them too, but we can't saturate them yet.
Jeff
ImageStream
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On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when
>> really pushing 10 gi
At 7/7/2011 08:47 PM, JeffB wrote:
>ImageStream offers them too, but we can't saturate them yet.
I'm curious...what's the biggest CPU you've tried them on? Vyatta
claims to be able to saturate 10G interfaces using multicore
Xeons. Even "high end" Xeon server iron seems cheap compared to the
C
I guess I knew that 10GigE interfaces were available, but was doubting
that you and the MT guys could saturate them.
Internally, I wouldn't be too concerned, but if I had to lease a wave,
I'd want to make sure I could fill it up.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics
I'd imagine this answer goes to all of the higher end x86 Mikrotik boxes
that have come out in the past couple years, but
Can it fill the 10 gig interface? IE: If I have those 10x GigE
interfaces going to different networks, can I fill that 10GigE?
I see that your MikroCore 7100 can have
I think a sweet spot for a router would have 60 - 80 gigabits of
throughput. 3x 10Giges and 0 - 10x GigEs. 1x 10GigE goes "East",
another goes "West", and the last goes up to a cheap provider. The
GigEs go to peering fabrics, private peers, alternate upstreams, etc.
Oh, and being able to sat
It's not a processor limitation Fred, it's a Linux issue. It can be fixed, but
will require a major re-write. I question that Vyatta has really overcome it.
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On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> At 7/7/2011 08:47 PM, JeffB wrote:
>> ImageStream offers them t
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