RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-10 Thread Charles R.Bartel
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms 800 people! Wow! I once went to Internet2/Joint Tech meeting and saw similar sight, but that was about 400 people or so... John, for that large lecture hall with 250 users, we plan to use Proxim AP2000 with two radio

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread John Hofmann
I would think you would be safe with 20-30 connections per access point. This could run into quite a bit of money, though it might still be less costly than that number of ports on managed switches. -Original Message- From: 802.11 wireless issues listserv [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread M. Sjulstad
If it's a new design/construction I would most certainly wire the classrooms. First off, it's relatively cheap to pull wire and jack 400 locations in a new installation. Even if you don't use the wired connections, you'll have the terminal and most likely the locations for Wireless too.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread John Hofmann
: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms If it's a new design/construction I would most certainly wire the classrooms. First off, it's relatively cheap to pull wire and jack 400 locations in a new installation. Even if you don't use the wired connections, you'll have the terminal

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Joyce, Todd N
We are in the process of installing access point all over campus. We keep telling people that this is a compliment to wired connections not a replacement. todd Todd Joyce Network Services Radford University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 831- From: Arnold Hassen

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Blair
Joyce: Excellent message. We had all kinds of problems with users who want wireless LAN technology but refuse to accept/realize/understand that the technology is has limitations. Everything from privacy, sufficient bandwidth for online exams, reserving AP and the associated RF space for

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Tom Marentette
Arnie - we have a new science building that is just starting construction. We have two auditoriums with 250 seats each in the design. The decision was made to pull cable to each seat; as convenient as wireless is, it still has limitations related to host-to-access pointconnectivity (read -

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread John Hofmann
09, 2004 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms We have been resisting the addition of Wireless to large classrooms simply due to the user factor. How are you going to communicate to hundredes of users which access point they should

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Sean Che
High density is a big challenge to wireless deployment. We are currently facing the same issue. In one of our wireless projects, we were told that there might be up to 250 simultaneous users ( Even worse: Did I mention they are all Pocket PCs with wireless cards? ) in one large lecture hall

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Jonn Martell
I used to be very worried about high density until I started to attend the IEEE meetings a few years ago where there is close to 800 engineers with laptops downloading PDFs, PPTs and DOCs. Quite the sight! I wish there was a way to take pictures but these aren't allowed at IEEE meetings. Worth

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Philippe Hanset
Sean, forgotten items: Pull 8 circuits and use 8 APs, do not use the 2 bays if you can: when you use the 2 bays, radios have to be 10 lamdas away (about 1 meter at 2.4 GHz) which will force you to use antennas...at the same time these antennas will reach too far and create interferences (unless

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Networking in Large Classrooms

2004-01-09 Thread Sean Che
John, Philippe, E.J. and all, Thanks much for the advices! I love this place! a 3.5 dbi Omni-directional antenna 50 bucks a pigtail for proxim radio card 20 bucks a Proxim AP2000 b/g, 600 bucks .. Your experienceand willing to share