Wow this is incredible. First of all Holzer showed for a long time only in
alternative spaces like Franklin Furnace which had nothing to do with art
world theory or power at all. She distributed work for free at that point.
My take on her work is diametrically opposite yours; there's nothing
unfo
There is one word for myself that I feel/think in regard to Jenny Holzer's work: progammatic, or programmed. There's a lifeless quality to it, in part because it takes stock phrases heavy with oppressive words, meanings, associations, and counters them with what are the stock phrases one cou
linear arrangments 18-21
http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/desktopcollage/la18.gif
http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/desktopcollage/la19.gif
http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/desktopcollage/la20.gif
http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/desktopcollage/la21.gif
Miekal - why not say something directly?
The book you and Maria did is superb!
love Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, mIEKAL aND wrote:
somebody should get this guy signed up on WRYTING... his works are
pretty tweaked & what a great domain name.
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somebody should get this guy signed up on WRYTING... his works are pretty tweaked & what a great domain name.
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From: Uh Ak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: July 18, 2005 3:48:07 PM CDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I am very disappointed in POETICLIST.
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No Joel, You LIVE it...
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From: "Joel Weishaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Rebus 01
Here's a woman who represented her country in Venice as the best it has to
offer, has had books published on her work, etc. I must not b
when i say flat, i am really talking about a kind of condensation as in:
MURDER HAS ITS SEXUAL SIDE
the phrase is noticeably lacking in emotional affect, the reality that lies
beneathe
such a proclamation has such intense emotions and so much tragedy involved
its hard to even think of what to s
Here's a woman who represented her country in Venice as the best it has to
offer, has had books published on her work, etc. I must not be a snob. I
must be a super-snob! Or, maybe I just don't suffer mediocrity.
-Joel
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From: "Lanny Quarles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Se
holzer's work: "thousands of people have seen it" - this is why mark's
procedure is interesting. thousands of people see the image google
hits that holzer's words are pulling up. would the rebi placed on
billboards have the same effect as the original holzer pieces? not
that they should, but the di
Well I don't find Holzer either superficial or flat; I find her brilliant,
as incisive as Karl Kraus, which is going a ways; some of her
installations like the 42nd st piece or Lustmord have been absolutely
amazing - Alan
( URLs/DVDs/CDroms/books/etc. see http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt -
rev
how now, brown cow?
I think the flatness is intentional in Holzer. This isn't "literary" work..
Much of it
involves context and as well a kind of stylisation of affect, there's no
ostranenie,
of any of the tropes of modernist or pomo or language poetry, but something
closer to a detourning of the
language of adver
> how
> leluia
Oh yes. This is first-rate.
-Joel
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From: "Bob Marcacci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: the real horror
another machine doing the same thing
they whisper
what was he like before words and all that
Holtzer gave a lecture at The University of New Mexico when I was a curator
at the Art Museum there. Frankly, I found her work superficial, with no more
depth of language or ideas than the Evening News. But I may be in the
minority here.
-Joel
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From: "Lanny R." <[EMAI
Thanks, Lanny! You nailed it with your usual googlesyllabic excellence.
Words are as much found object and cultural capital as images. Jenny H
just applied Duchamp to words.
(What's with the R at the end of your name, recently?)
m
On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Lanny R. wrote:
I have seen a la
couldn't resist..
What's
http://www.gothamist.com/weather/images/kp_sunFinally.jpg
There
http://www.tsolocations.com/graphics/there/th_scened.gif
Not
http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/2001-08-26/not-found.jpg
To
http://www.learn2type.com/images/typing_tests/free-typing-tests.jpg
Get?
http://ww
I have seen a large room done by Holzer at the DMA but none of the
outdoor or in situ public works. She was an inspiration when I was
a 19yr old college student studying video and computer art in the 80's
on the Amiga at UTA in Arlington. We all liked to do little text
scrolling pieces which were t
Here’s one that turned out a bit more explicit. I guess it’s inevitable when images are culled from the web nowadays. (This is the last one I will post to Wryting, so no complaints!)
PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT
http://www.kunst.no/bjornmag/mpphp2004/protectmefromw.jpg
another machine doing the same thing
they whisper
what was he like before words and all that
other stuff started coming out
those arrangements
does he think
he makes music
he makes lists or he doesn't
No, it's just what fits most compactly in the allotted space without
leaving too many blank spaces.
m
On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i didn't even notice the flag.
is the visual arrangement of the images derived procedurally as well?
jUStin
On 7/18/05, mwp <[EMAIL PR
i didn't even notice the flag.
is the visual arrangement of the images derived procedurally as well?
jUStin
On 7/18/05, mwp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep, a basic A = B equation, where A = word, and B = image. One image
> per word, no matter how small.
>
> The underlying violence is also int
Yep, a basic A = B equation, where A = word, and B = image. One image
per word, no matter how small.
The underlying violence is also interesting, with the dog wearing the
US flag, etc.
m
On Jul 18, 2005, at 4:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
considering the public spaces that holtzer's truis
considering the public spaces that holtzer's truisms occup(y)ied, the
pop nature of these images is very rich. family dog, family photo
internet porn, video games . . .
what's there not to get? input processed to output. an equation right?
jUStin
On 7/18/05, Joel Weishaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
I don't get this.
But then, I never got Jenny Holtzer either.
-Joel
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From: "mwp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:30 PM
Subject: Rebus 01
Rebus 01
2005
Words are replaced with the first image that appears in Alltheweb’s
image search. If a word
Rebus 01
2005
Words are replaced with the first image that appears in Alltheweb’s
image search. If a word appears more than once, the next image in the
list is selected so that there is no repetition of images.
For this initial experiment, I borrow one of Jenny Holzer’s most famous
Truisms,
do regularly Anybody else played w cognitive enhancement drugs are on
the nineties for a new experimental regime at some even better books
than the dose right Piracetam works well These days Ginkgo is about
all I think I ordered some extra good sideeffects for memory
enhancement drugs are on the Kr
Well, you usually take the opposite view to mine, that's why we're friends.
-Joel
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From: "Alan Sondheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: State of new media from strawberry fields forever -
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus
Absolutely. And with me I think it comes out of a bit of a depressive
nature - I generally tend to be loudmouthed and feel invisible at the same
time. - Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote:
Well, you usually take the opposite view to mine, that's why we're friends.
-Joel
- Ori
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote:
-Of course many artists are forgotten. How many artists must have been in
Paris during the first half of the century of whom we've never heard, some
of them must have been as talented as the ones we know. But, they
contributed nonetheless. And even now s
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Alan:
Difficult to reply in this format to all that you've said, but I'll give it
a try.
-Of course many artists are forgotten. How many artists must have been in
Paris during the first half of the century of whom we've never heard, some
of them must have been as talented as the ones we know. But
For me it's quite odd; he apparently edited an edition of Walden, but he's
less philosophical, more a sense of wonder, without anthropomorphizing...
- Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Gerald Schwartz wrote:
I have a number of his books, mostly
dealing with seasons and regions. It's
a guilty pleasure
I have a number of his books, mostly
dealing with seasons and regions. It's
a guilty pleasure, but he was a great
prose writer.
The book is wonderful - many many photographs of insects close-up -
something we take for granted, but was still wonderous in 1942. -
- Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, G
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Joel Weishaus wrote:
Alan:
This must be answered, and not just by me, as it touches on so much of what
I, and I guess others who work almost exclusively in the digital, have
thought and think about.
Let's start at a signpost, this one being the Paleolithic caves. Did the
p
The book is wonderful - many many photographs of insects close-up -
something we take for granted, but was still wonderous in 1942. -
- Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Gerald Schwartz wrote:
Alan: This is amazin... thyank you
for sharing.
Jerry
Moth Radio -
an unpublished letter by Edwin Way T
Alan: This is amazin... thyank you
for sharing.
Jerry
Moth Radio -
an unpublished letter by Edwin Way Teale found in a copy of Near Horizons,
Dodd, Mead, and Company, NY, 1942, bought at Heights Books in Brooklyn,
NY, May 2005 -
Edwin Way Teale
93 Park Avenue
Baldwin, L. I.
New York
Januar
Moth Radio -
an unpublished letter by Edwin Way Teale found in a copy of Near Horizons,
Dodd, Mead, and Company, NY, 1942, bought at Heights Books in Brooklyn,
NY, May 2005 -
Edwin Way Teale
93 Park Avenue
Baldwin, L. I.
New York
January 10, 19(4/5)3 */typewriter overstrike; the date is unc
theoretical tension as a result of curve-cutting and raster change.
what happens when intermediate discrete limits are passed.
http://www.asondheim.org/twistl.mov
or so I'm led to believe, having worked through the equation.
short video and easily downloadable.
details, details...
My apologies, bad choice of words.
-Peter
-Original Message-From: mIEKAL aND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.UTORONTO.CASent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:32:23 -0500Subject: Re: [webartery] State of new media from strawberry fields forever -
As someone who met my partner online I c
As someone who met my partner online I can assure you that for many it is neither desperate or tragic...On Jul 18, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Peter Ciccariello wrote:Fine thought Joel, I am reminded of AT&T's "Reach out and touch someone""and the desperate, and sometimes tragic rush to cybersex, online cha
Joel said:
"With all the science and technology, more peoplefeel disconnected, and thus are becoming neurotically attached to cellphones, to constant conversation, to constant entertainment, to being intouch with everyone but themselves."
Fine thought Joel, I am reminded of AT&T's "Reach out an
- Original Message -
From: "Joel Weishaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [webartery] State of new media from strawberry fields forever -
Alan:
This must be answered, and not just by me, as it touches on so much of what
I, and
how
Just read a critique of him in Peat's book on Bohm.
Someday I'll write about Bohm
- Alan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, David-Baptiste Chirot wrote:
There are some things so serious it is best to laugh about them--Werner
Heisenberg
>From: Alan Sondheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "WRYTING-L :
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, mwp wrote:
I think it may be a peculiarly American thing to demand of art that it be
entertaining. May be. I've never felt comfortable with the term myself,
although I respect it when artists like Anderson and Fonda take it up. To me,
Godard's Tout va bien (starring Fonda
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