re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [WSG] base css

2005-07-11 Thread csslist
thanks :) those are good but I guess what i meant was more in terms of hacks that are generally used in most css files, I guess meaning are you guys starting off with a chunck of hacks or adding them as needed? :)From: "Mike Foskett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:16 AMTo:

Re: [WSG] JAVA Script help

2005-07-11 Thread Choan C. Gálvez
Angus at InfoForce Services escribió: Can a person familiar with JAVA Script have a look at http://infoforce-services.com/personal/englishocanada.php and contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell me what is wrong and how to fix it. Thank you. Error: missing } after function body

RE: [WSG] are underscores a problem

2005-07-11 Thread Chris Taylor
On Jul 8, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Chris Taylor wrote: I've been using the dash and period in ID names a lot recently (part of an unobtrusive DOM scripting set of functions I've been developing) and not found any problems yet in any of the Win browsers. Whether IDs formatted like this

[WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread designer
Dear wizards, I am trying to set up a simple generic style sheet for the typography which I'm likely to use most, and am having trouble with getting a :first-letter to work in IE5.5. I want the first letter of my h6 to be larger than the rest of the line, in a darker colour, and I want the

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread Jens Grochtdreis
Hi Bob, Can anyone help out with this? Maybe IE does't like the combination of bold and normal. You write: h6:first-letter { color : #333; font: bold normal 218% Times New Roman, Times, serif; } You should decide, if it should be bold or normal :-) This would be nearly the

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread Ingo Chao
designer schrieb: www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk/typotest.html and there you will see the effect working fine in IE6, FF1.0, Opera etc. But IE5.5, although it gets the colour right, h6:first-letter doesn't pick up the increase in size for the first letter. havent looked to deep in it, but

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread designer
Thanks Jens, but the 'normal' is supposed to mean 'not oblique' (ie, the rest of the line is defined in h6 as font : bold oblique etc) I agree, the 'bold normal' does seem strange, but it's how topstyle pro converts a list of separate qualifiers . . .so you could have font : normal normal

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread designer
Well that certainly works Ingo - thank you! Bob Ingo Chao wrote: designer schrieb: www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk/typotest.html and there you will see the effect working fine in IE6, FF1.0, Opera etc. But IE5.5, although it gets the colour right, h6:first-letter doesn't pick up the

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread designer
Thanks John, but I don't think that's it. The letter isn't missing (it's even the right colour!) but the size is wrong. ?? Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear wizards, I am trying to set up a simple generic style sheet for the typography

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread Nathan Rutman
In that case, perhaps using an EM size would be more effective than a percentage. It would still be resizable for accessibility, but it might not throw 5.5 for a loop... -Nate *Nathan Rutman* ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Corporate Communications Designer *Solvepoint

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread Jens Grochtdreis
Hi Bob, Nathans mail brought me to the idea, that IE5.5 has a problem with your basic font-definition. IE is known to have a problem, if you style body with em. So the best way, we had this a few days ago, is to style with percent if you want the IE-users to be able to resize the page. Your

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle (h6:first-letter)

2005-07-11 Thread designer
Thanks to all who contributed. I have now returned to good old reliable pixels! Doing that, plus spelling out the declaration as individual statements: h6:first-letter { color : #80; font-weight : bold; font-style : normal; font-size : 34px; font-family : Times New Roman,

[WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Whitehurst
is this mailing list for anything other than helping novice designers with their hacks? Mike Whitehurstwww.mike-whitehurst.co.uk

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Mike Whitehurst wrote: is this mailing list for anything other than helping novice designers with their hacks? [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a pretty much catch-all for web/html/php/sql/asp/apache.javascript/flash help. sign up. http://www.evolt.org

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:30:24 +0100, Mike Whitehurst wrote: is this mailing list for anything other than helping novice designers with their hacks? This is definitely a mailing list for discussing all aspects of web standards. Any technical list is going to have a large proportion of 'newbie'

[WSG] sprites to the right of me

2005-07-11 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Sometimes, it seems like I can practically code sprite background images in my sleep. But I have a problem when I want to place a sprite-ed background image to the right of an object. For instance, this is the css to place an image to the left of a link's text. .spritely {background:

Re: [WSG] sprites to the right of me

2005-07-11 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:11:39 -0700, Drake, Ted C. wrote: .spritely {background: url(bg-icons.png) no-repeat -35px -999px; padding-left:65px; min-height:15px; } However, we'd like this particular link to have the background image on the right side of the text. As far as I know, the first

Re: [WSG] sprites to the right of me

2005-07-11 Thread Nathan Rutman
Don't use pixel values, use percentages or keywords: .spritely { background: transparent url(bg-icons.png) no-repeat right center; padding-right: 65px; min-height: 15px; } Hope that helps, Nate *Nathan Rutman* ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Corporate Communications

RE: [WSG] sprites to the right of me

2005-07-11 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi lea Thanks, I hadn't tried the 100% before. I remember seeing it ages ago. It's a large sprite and I like to leave plenty of white space between icons to avoid a stray icon showing up where it shouldn't. Hopefully, I can mix 100% with a pixel measurement to go down 999px. Ted -Original

Re: [WSG] sprites to the right of me

2005-07-11 Thread Nathan Rutman
Ted, Is text involved at all in this link? If so, I would suggest using 100% and adding transparent pixels to the right of the image to bump it away from anything on that side. Remember, text sizes can change with browser/user preferences, so if you assign a background to be 999px from the

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Richard Czeiger
I don't know, Lea... Perhaps there should be two lists - one for discussing standards/accessibility/best practice and one for how do I fix my float/site check please. Personally, the latter tends to just fill up my Inbox, whereas I find the former really interesting and challenging Some

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:26:22 +1000, Richard Czeiger wrote: Perhaps there should be two lists - one for discussing standards/accessibility/best practice and one for how do I fix my float/site check please. I like the concept, but my experience of multiple lists for the one group is that

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Geoff Deering
Lea de Groot wrote: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:26:22 +1000, Richard Czeiger wrote: Perhaps there should be two lists - one for discussing standards/accessibility/best practice and one for how do I fix my float/site check please. Having multiple lists also starts lots of flame threads on

RE: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Peter Firminger
I totally concur with Lea (which happens with amazing regularity). We have discussed this matter in the past (along with creating online fora to move some of the newbie stuff off the list) but the general consensus was that this was and still is the best way to do it to cover all levels. If

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Jason Foss
It's a huge Help when the Subject line clearly defines the topic, that way you can quickly identify threads where you may want to participate. It also helps when browsing archives. Russ has covered this in the intro, and most lists do, but people still persist with Help Needed and equivalent

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Geoff Deering
Jason Foss wrote: If I can chip in too - I don't have a problem with newbie posts, nor more advanced posts. But I don't even open Help Needed type subject lines. A descriptive subject line is all that's needed; you can quickly decide if you want to read or get involved in the thread. My 2c,

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/11/05 4:51 PM Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I think the flip side is that a) newbies need to see the 'advanced' stuff to learn by osmosis and b) its really good for gurus to see the newbie questions (and maybe occasionally answer them? Hint, hint people ;)) to keep them

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Rick Faaberg
But I don't even open Help Needed type subject lines. And I never read HTML/RTF email either. Text is too small. Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Joshua Street
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 12:02 +1000, Jason Foss wrote: But I don't even open Help Needed type subject lines. A descriptive subject line is all that's needed; you can quickly decide if you want to read or get involved in the thread. There's a minor problem with this, though I agree with your core

[WSG] HR - Presentation or Structure?

2005-07-11 Thread Kenny Graham
Am I alone in feeling that hr should be depreciated in favor of CSS borders? Especially with section in the XHTML 2.0 drafts, what semantic or even structural value does hr have? Every argument for its retention that I've heard so far has been presentation related.

Re: [WSG] HR - Presentation or Structure?

2005-07-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kenny Graham wrote: Am I alone in feeling that hr should be depreciated in favor of CSS borders? Especially with section in the XHTML 2.0 drafts, what semantic or even structural value does hr have? Every argument for its retention that I've heard so far has been presentation related. Well,

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Geoff Deering
Joshua Street wrote: There's a minor problem with this, though I agree with your core argument. Newbie posts requesting site reviews can't very easily bear a descriptive subject line when all they want is advice on semantics/markup and best practises. There isn't a core problem they want

Re: [WSG] help or web - THREAD CLOSED

2005-07-11 Thread russ - maxdesign
Maybe enough said on this THREAD CLOSED There has been a lot of good input here, so thanks for bringing it up and for the following discussion... I think we can wrap it up now. A few points to recap: 1. At this stage we will not be going to two or more lists. 2. Please use a subject line

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Please don't forget, while forking, to build a third mediocres/average list, for those who squint at being a guru and tend to forget the years they were soo newbie. or, alternatively: Raise the level of the input in this list by more quality postings and answers. The quality of the