Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image

2006-01-13 Thread Jan Brasna
FYI - it's described here: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ http://annevankesteren.nl/2004/07/png-gamma http://www.evolt.org/article/To_PNG_or_not_to_PNG/22/60134/ -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net **

RE: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Nic
If you don't have the full version of Acrobat, you're probably SOL... In a case like this, you ought to ask the client again for a USABLE file. If you didn't specify the file formats required in the contract, then you may be in for trouble. I've had a nightmare deal with someone on a project

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Joshua Street
Well, if Photoshop won't open them, the GIMP certainly can. Then it's just cutting it apart like you would had you received any other flat file, I suppose! Of course, if you need backgrounds then a kindly worded email to the client requesting the source file with layers, etc., would probably be

RE: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Web Man Walking
You could always screen grab if you have to? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nic Sent: 13 January 2006 10:17 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] pdf graphics If you don't have the full version of Acrobat, you're probably

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Bruce wrote: I was pleased recently to get a rather large project. It was also nice that they were sending the graphics for the site design. Today I got them, in pdf format! LOL! I wish all pdf files would get lost, feel they have no place on the web. They do have their place on the web,

Re: [WSG] Site Check - ShetlandCoffee.com

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Peper
David Nicol wrote: I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/ If you're on the home page, hovering above the top left logo won't do anything. If you go to About Us, both the top *and* bottom section of the logo link you back to the home

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Peper
Bruce wrote: Hi all, I was pleased recently to get a rather large project. It was also nice that they were sending the graphics for the site design. Today I got them, in pdf format! What do you do in a situation like this? I need them for the design, menu items and backgrounds... What about

RE: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread kvnmcwebn
are the graphics vectors? Opening from Adobe illustrator would keep everything nice and editable. -kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

Re: [WSG] Site Check - ShetlandCoffee.com

2006-01-13 Thread ���
Christian Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nicol wrote: I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/If you're on the home page, hovering above the top left logo won't do anything.If you go to About Us, both the top *and* bottom section of the

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread ���
Christian Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce wrote: Hi all, I was pleased recently to get a rather large project. It was also nice that they were sending the graphics for the site design. Today I got them, in pdf format! What do you do in a situation like this? I need them for the design,

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:59 AM, kvnmcwebn wrote: are the graphics vectors? Opening from Adobe illustrator would keep everything nice and editable. -kvnmcwebn I second trying Illustrator first, Photoshop next. Recent versions of both will open the files. Illustrator's underlying format is pdf,

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
This may be a bit off-topic, but I saw a few people mentioning GIMP. I'm a long time Photoshop user (since version 5.0), and Photoshop has been one of the excuses for staying a Windows user. Has anyone been a longtime Photoshop user and switched to GIMP, and not looked back? Maybe just

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Mark Desmet
On Friday 13 January 2006 08:50 am, Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: GIMP is a fine program, but no replacement for Photoshop, it is just not as robust. Mark Desmet This may be a bit off-topic, but I saw a few people mentioning GIMP. I'm a long time Photoshop user (since version 5.0), and Photoshop

RE: [WSG] Active Links

2006-01-13 Thread Helmut Granda
Thanks for the tips, unfortunately no Server Side technology can be used, just static HTML files. Thanks for the thought though. ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:45 PM To:

RE: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Conyers, Dwayne, Mr [C]
Marilyn Langfeld wrote: Photoshop has a pdf import dialog box that allows you to decide on the page if it's multipage pdf, ppi, rgb vs cmyk, size. You can export JPG out of Adobe right? Worst case -- do an ALT + Print Screen and paste into Photoshop. Or, perhaps a utility like SnagIt?

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce
Thanks all who answered. I have to admit I never knew photoshop would open pdf. Unbelievable perhaps, but nontheless... Even version 5.5 opened tham and I was able to save as jpg. Thanks! Bruce Prochnau BKDesign - Original Message - From: Mark Desmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image - FIXED

2006-01-13 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, So the problem was resolved with the re-saved images alone, or in concert with changes to the CSS? Respectfully, Christopher Kennon Principal Creative Director -Bushidodeep www.bushidodeep.com On Jan 12, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Mani Sheriar wrote: Thanks all, especially Nick Cowie who

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
On Jan 13, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Conyers, Dwayne, Mr [C] wrote: You can export JPG out of Adobe right? Yes, the latest version of Photoshop saves to .jpg, .gif. png .ico (if you install a plug-in, one of which is donationware), as well as having a Save for web export in .jpg, .gif, .png-8,

Re: [WSG] semantic way to use subscript or superscript

2006-01-13 Thread dszady
Thank you. Patrick H. Lauke wrote: dszady wrote: I also remember a post saying not to use the two elements but it didn't mention why. In my opinion, sub and sup have a primarily visual/presentational nature, rather than a semantic one. I'm still puzzled as to why they're still included

Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-13 Thread Peter J. Farrell
Marilyn Langfeld said the following on 1/13/2006 9:37 AM: Yes, the latest version of Photoshop saves to .jpg, .gif. png .ico (if you install a plug-in, one of which is donationware), as well as having a Save for web export in .jpg, .gif, .png-8, .png-24 and WBMP that helps you to optimize

Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image - FIXED

2006-01-13 Thread Mani Sheriar
So the problem was resolved with the re-saved images alone, or in concert with changes to the CSS? No change to the CSS. This has me baffled as I had already tried resaving all the images but I don't really have the time to figure it all out - I'm just thanking the web design gods that it all

[WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread denAnden.dk
Hallo sweet people. a question; what is the correct use of the br-tag? is it permitted inside p-tags to break lines? is it recomended outside p-tags for extra lineshifts? what are the semantical issues with the br-tag? Thank you, in advance, Jes

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2006-01-13 Thread Monica Berko
I am on leave, returning on the 23rd January. Please contact David Wong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if the matter is urgent. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/13/06, denAnden.dk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the correct use of the br-tag? is it permitted inside p-tags to break lines? is it recomended outside p-tags for extra lineshifts? what are the semantical issues with the br-tag? br can be used in both cases. The semantic issues are

Re: [WSG] Safari Lightening Entire Background Image

2006-01-13 Thread Jack Kennard
Nick Would also happen if there was no-repeat of the image ? Nick Cowie wrote: My suggestion it has something to do with the two background images involved: html { min-height:100%; margin-bottom:1px; background:url(../_images/bg2.jpg); } body {

Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Kenny Graham
Most common uses of br/ can and should be replaced by CSS, as they're presentational. Some examples of semantic use of br/ are to seperate lines of a poem, lines of an address, etc. In these cases (especially poems), the line break is important to the content itself, not just how you would like

Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Kenny Graham
is it recomended outside p-tags for extra lineshifts? This is best done by adding margins or padding to the paragraphs. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread denAnden.dk
Thank you Christian and Kenny, Just one clarification, Kenny Wrote In these cases (especially poems), the line break is important to the content itself, not just how you would like it to be displayed. so everything can be argued to be correct semantical use of the br-tag, if we claim it to

Re: [WSG] Active Links

2006-01-13 Thread Justin Carter
On 1/14/06, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tips, unfortunately no Server Side technology can be used, just static HTML files. If the pages must be static then you only have two options that I can think of... 1) Use a current class (or id) on the navigation element that

RE: [WSG] Active Links

2006-01-13 Thread Helmut Granda
1) I am using DW Templates and I have locked the menu to avoid having to recreate every time there is a menu update. Also the site will be updated with Contribute so the user will be able to add/delete items from the menu and they might not know how to apply a class/id attribute to the item they

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:26 PM 1/13/2006, denAnden.dk wrote: in the sence that in address example, the meaning a Br-tag would carrie could instead be carried by commas or seperate p tags, which would be more correct and should be used? This is one of those points we'll never all agree on but love to argue.

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread denAnden.dk
Hi, Paul Wrote. p class=exhortation span class=adverbJust/span span class=verbget/span span class=prepositionover/span span class=pronounit/span span class=conjunctionand/span span class=verbbreak/span span class=articlethe/span

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Alvaro Mouriño
So many people think that br should be avoided, but only for text layout or for the entire document? Because I've been so tempted to use tables when formatting a form, and now I read that br tags should not be used... And I think that creating a unique CSS class with the absolute position for each

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Alvaro Mouriño wrote: So many people think that br should be avoided, but only for text layout or for the entire document? It's important not to get confused, nor put weight into such statements, they're usually either stated too broadly just plain wrong. br can be used for explicit line

Tabluar forms WAS: Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Joshua Street
On 1/14/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tables for forms is ok in some cases, forms can be considered tabular. This one has always confused me. There is a linear relationship between a field's label and the field proper, yes, but how does one mark that up as a table? SHOULD that be

Re: Tabluar forms WAS: Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Joshua Street wrote: This one has always confused me. There is a linear relationship between a field's label and the field proper, yes, but how does one mark that up as a table? I believe Lachlan was referring to a construct like tr th scope=rowlabel for=nameName/label/th tdinput

Re: Tabluar forms WAS: Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Joshua Street
Yep, the fieldset is an appropriate way of grouping, but doesn't (so far as I'm aware) allow for the kind of visual styling that is required (by designers who don't think in terms of markup) for some forms. Excuse the following ASCII art: | Please select | | |

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Kat
I want to ask something that's on the same line as the original poster, but a little bit in another direction. Sorry! But, for example, marking up a postal address, a poem or something where line breaks are semantically important, then the use of br is ok. p 123 George Street,br

RE: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Firminger
The much maligned br element is essential in our work. Sometimes we're not just doing poetry and addresses. Take for example the archive page of this very message (the one I'm replying to). http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=C69ACE78-BB9A-910B-E6CC1A4A59BDF099 How else would I

Re: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Joshua Street
Nope. Only, I'd add that there are existing apps out there that will fall into various server-side languages to do intelligent replacement of linebreaks - paragraphs, smart quotes, etc. KSES, used by WordPress (or at least it used to be) is one such for the PHP langauge (