Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-22 Thread Wynne Hunkler
Agree with Keryx very much regarding Sitepoint books. Sitepoint is one of my commonly used references. If you are looking to gain an excellent understanding of javascript and how it interprets the DOM, I would recommend Simply Javascript at http://www.sitepoint.com/books/javascript1/?SID=fd68

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Katrina
Simon wrote: Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, and by this I mean not filling my page with onclick and sending hrefs to #. But instead abstracting it all into the .js file and keeping my markup clean. I've followed the book by Jeremy Keith called DOM Scripting

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
> I've been trying to convince people here at work to use JQuery for UI... Are there any takes on JQuery vs. Mootools? Easier? More compatible? Less filesize? Thanks! Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If yo

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> I've been trying to convince people here at work to use JQuery for UI, but most are reluctant, because it's a framework. > Any good arguments of Why it is still OK to use JQuery? jQuery is not really a framework. jQuery is a library of javascript functions. The fact that they have a synon

Re: [WSG] Learning JavaScript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
;> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On >> Behalf Of Keryx Web >> Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 8:52 AM >> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org >> Subject: Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly >>

Re: RE: [WSG] Learning JavaScript properly

2008-09-18 Thread William Donovan
or the beginner level. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of Keryx Web > Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 8:52 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly > > Simon skrev: > &

RE: [WSG] Learning JavaScript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Design
I can personally vouch for Simply JavaScript by Sitepoint. Very good book for the beginner level. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keryx Web Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 8:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Learning

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Simon
Thanks for all your replies, I'm getting stuck into jQuery and it seems pretty good! Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Breton Slivka Sent: 18 September 2008 22:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Learning Javas

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Keryx Web
Simon skrev: Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, Learn the basics first - then libraries: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200701/learn_javascript_before_tasting_the_library_koolaid/ Mozilla Developer Central is a nice resource. All Sitepoint books are g

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Breton Slivka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 09/18/2008 12:04 PM > > Please respond to > wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > To > wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > cc > Subject > Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly > > > > > Simon, > > G

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Schalk Neethling
Not sure if someone has mentioned it but, you may want also check DOMAssistant as a supporting library. Regards, Schalk Dinh wrote: What I learn from JQuery community is that it is quite stable, BC and consistent. It saves me a lot of headaches when dealing with weird behaviors of different b

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Stepan Reznikov
> Does anyone have any resources? I highly recommend Douglas Crockford's lectures on JavaScript: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/ * The JavaScript Programming Language * An Inconvenient API: The Theory of the DOM * Advanced JavaScript Douglas also wrote a very good book "JavaScript: The

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Dinh
What I learn from JQuery community is that it is quite stable, BC and consistent. It saves me a lot of headaches when dealing with weird behaviors of different browsers including bad ones: IE6 or IE7. If anyone want to write JavaScript from the scratch, he will encounter a lot of problem, especiall

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread AGerasimchuk
TED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/2008 12:31 PM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly Anya, It just makes good business sense, If you can write what would normally take 40 lines of code to do a

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread David Dorward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been trying to convince people here at work to use JQuery for > UI, but most are reluctant, because it's a framework. They are reluctant because it has prewritten code to handle a bunch of common tasks that lots of people want to do (and, as a result, is robuster

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Aubrey Morrell
es UNIFI Information Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] (513) 595 -2391 *Aubrey Morrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/2008 12:04 PM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] Le

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread AGerasimchuk
CTED] (513) 595 -2391 Aubrey Morrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/2008 12:04 PM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly Simon, Get into jQuery man. Plain old javascript jus

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Aubrey Morrell
Simon, Get into jQuery man. Plain old javascript just doesn't cut it. Best library I have used. Bit of a learning curve but well worth getting your head around. Have fun: http://jquery.com/ Regards Aubrey Simon wrote: Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly,

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Jeffrey Sambells
Well I could suggest AdvancED DOM Scripting but I'm a little biased since I wrote it :) -- Jeffrey Sambells PHP5 Zend Certified Engineer On 18-Sep-08, at 11:01 AM, Simon wrote: Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, and by this I mean not filling my page with

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread michael.brockington
16:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, and by this I mean not filling my page with onclick and sending hrefs to #. But instead abstracting it all into the .js file and keeping my markup

[WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Simon
Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, and by this I mean not filling my page with onclick and sending hrefs to #. But instead abstracting it all into the .js file and keeping my markup clean. I've followed the book by Jeremy Keith called DOM Scripting which teaches