Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Hennessy
> Firefox is excellent, only was curious if the > security issue talked about was fixed. I don't imagine it will be long until it is fixed. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253121 That is the beauty of open source. All software can have bugs. It is how fast they are fixed that is of i

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Amit Karmakar
They sure do, like I said I do suppost firefox as long as I am on PC and Safari on the Mac. Firefox is excellent, only was curious if the security issue talked about was fixed. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:31:57 -0400, Brian Cummiskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
Brian Cummiskey wrote: ALL software will have holes in it. Fact is, mozilla had a patch for it the same day practically In most cases, unless you follow security issues very closely, it's likely you'll hear about the fix before the bug. ... IE's exploits go weeks, and most the time, months. ...i

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Amit Karmakar wrote: Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ ALL software will have holes in it. Fact is, mozilla had a patch for it the same day practically... IE's exploits go weeks, and most the time, months.

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Asquith
It is, in my experience, best to start with the closest implementation to the standards you can find (in this case I choose Firefox/Gecko) and then code for the exceptional cases. If you start from an outlying position (for example IE 5/Win) and then try to work the other way you will find that

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
Adam Hennessy wrote: Isn't it amusing that developers using web standards have to support the browsers. In an ideal world it would be the other way around It does "sound" backwards, however I disagree with the "ideal world" part because I think it make logical sense. It's the standard backwards

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Hennessy
> we should all be looking at supporting them all! Isn't it amusing that developers using web standards have to support the browsers. In an ideal world it would be the other way around. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Se

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mark Harwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that >>makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? >> >> A good developer should have all browser installed which everone he uses as his default is down to his personal prefrenc

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-29 Thread Mordechai Peller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? To address the last question first, Opera happens to be a good choice as well, though I think Firefox is better. The two main reason

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 29, 2004, at 11:53 am, Amit Karmakar wrote: Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ For the sake of complete information: it should be noted that both bugs are already fixed.

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Chris Blown wrote: On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 10:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? DOM Inspector Venkman Javascript Debugger Edit CSS Browser Session Saving Open

RE: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Miles Tillinger
t. > -Original Message- > From: Amit Karmakar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox? > > Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thoug

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Amit Karmakar
Although I support firefox this may work against Firefox thought. http://secunia.com/advisories/12160/ On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:29:41 +1200, Peter Asquith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Helen > > I use Firefox, in combination with Chris Pederick's Web Developer > extension (http://www.chrispede

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Peter Asquith
Hi Helen I use Firefox, in combination with Chris Pederick's Web Developer extension (http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/), as my primary development browser. Firefox renders my markup and CSS as I'd expect it to be rendered, gives me good page information and has a built in

RE: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Opera's support of form styling was (unitl recently) totally lacklustre. I'm not saying which side of the "form styling is inherently wrong" fence I sit on, but that combined with the ads is enough for me to choose Mozilla (full suite, not Firefox) as my dev browser. ___

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Blown
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 10:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that > makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? DOM Inspector Venkman Javascript Debugger Edit CSS Browser Session Saving Open Bookmark Groups in T

Re: [WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Neerav
1. The web developer toolbar http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/ 2. Tabbed interface for multiple sites in one window 3. Opera has Ads which take up part of its interface -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://

[WSG] Why do web developers user Firefox?

2004-07-28 Thread Helen . Rysavy
Hi I'm putting together a list of web development tools and am wondering about the following: Why is the Firefox browser used by Web Developers? What does it have that makes it a good tool? - over other browsers? Why not Opera? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks