Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-09 Thread David Laakso
Stuart Sherwood wrote: Hi All, The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly appreciated. I have a problem with a submenu that works by altering the z-index. I have used the following hack which I'm not entirely happy with. Can someone suggest something better? #submenu a:hover { z

RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-09 Thread Buddy Quaid
rt Sherwood > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:18 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks > > > Hi All, > The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly > appreciated. I have a problem with a submenu that works by > altering t

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-09 Thread Stuart Sherwood
Hi All, The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly appreciated. I have a problem with a submenu that works by altering the z-index. I have used the following hack which I'm not entirely happy with. Can someone suggest something better? #submenu a:hover { z-index: 20; z-index: e

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Allan
Wayne, It *is* confusing. But, yes, a separate stylesheet, loaded via conditional comments is the most future proof method. Not exactly what Phillipe is describing, but along the same lines. Perhaps this will help get you going: http://phonophunk.phreakin.com/news/?p=46 Cheers, Mike

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 9 Aug 2005, at 11:19 am, Wayne Godfrey wrote: Wouldn't IE for Mac also be influenced by the hacks below? body.index #main { margin-left: 250px; _margin-left: 245px; /* IE hack */ margin-right: 15px; _margin-right: 10px; /* IE hack */ background-co

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Wouldn't IE for Mac also be influenced by the hacks below? body.index #main { margin-left: 250px; _margin-left: 245px; /* IE hack */ margin-right: 15px; _margin-right: 10px; /* IE hack */ background-color: transparent; } The testing I've done on IE Mac

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Darren Wood wrote: > I use a very simple rule that will allow for CSS validation... > > Its the " * html " selector As a side note: - Conditional Comments are IE/Win only (>= v5), - the star selector hack works with IE/Mac too. Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [sniff] You're not alone, Ted. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C. Hi Al I didn't realize you were on the list. Your web site and coding was an inspiration to me when I first switched to CSS and standards-based

RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Webmaster
[sniff] You're not alone, Ted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C. Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2005 9:34 AM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks Hi Al I didn't realize you wer

RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Drake, Ted C.
onday, August 08, 2005 4:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks From: "Jan Brasna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks > When using these filters, be careful - IE7 is coming... Wise

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Jan Brasna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks When using these filters, be careful - IE7 is coming... Wise words. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com "Designing with CSS is sometimes

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Wayne Godfrey
So my brain has made this entirely too complicated, huh? Can't imagine that! I'm using an @import rule, so my good style sheet would remain the same (sans IE hacks) and I can put only the IE hacks in a file with the conditional comments around it, is that correct? That's so simple. Thanks Dav

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Darren Wood
I use a very simple rule that will allow for CSS validation... Its the " * html " selector IE thinks there's an extra element outside the HTML element...as we know there isn't. what this means is we can exploit it for our IE hack. Have a look at the example: #wrapper { /* all browsers other th

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Jan Brasna
When using these filters, be careful - IE7 is coming... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread David Laakso
Wayne Godfrey wrote: I feel a bit dumb asking this, but there's so much to learn and some things sink in better than others! Anyway, I've had to do some hacks to get IE to display my site correctly. Now those hacks are causing my CSS to not validate. The question is what is the proper way to f