Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Notes

2017-06-29 Thread Tim Carlson
I just made my first FT8 QSO with WB4KDI as well. I agree - very cool. -Tim - KD0GYG > On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:43 PM, C. Gary Rogers wrote: > > Just made first FT8 QSO with WB4KDI…Way cool!!!…73 Gary > >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dave 'Doc' Corio > > wrote: >>

[wsjt-devel] Available for download JTAlert with FT8 spotting fix.

2017-06-29 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Guys, This version of JTAlert has the FT8 spotting fix (FT8 no longer spotted as T10). Upgrade your existing JTAlert install with this version... http://dnl.HamApps.com/Testing/HamApps_JTAlert_2.9.9_build_0001_Setup.exe Let me know if you encounter any issues with this build. I have also cre

[wsjt-devel] Request to Change FrequencyList.cpp

2017-06-29 Thread Takehiko Tsutsumi
Hi, Would you change the section of FrequencyList.cpp on 80m to be operable for JA stations as follow? {357, Modes::JT65}, {3572000, Modes::JT9}, {3573000, Modes::FT8}, {3572600, Modes::WSPR}, Current frequencies are used for Government Use and are not allocated for Radio Amateur Service

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Roger Rehr W3SZ
Bill G4WJS had given a warning on June 9 to "Beware if building from development sources" with revisions later than r7703, due to some transmission modulation issues. Given the recommendations for us to try JT8 and the great enthusiasm being shown for it by users now running r7750 or later, is it

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread signalhz signalhz
Is this a linux version or mac? Get Outlook for iOS From: David Tiller Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 5:02:35 PM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs Gary, Ask and ye shall receive! I

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Notes

2017-06-29 Thread C. Gary Rogers
Just made first FT8 QSO with WB4KDI…Way cool!!!…73 Gary > On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: > > Managed 5 or 6 QSOs with the new mode so far. Two things I notice: > > 1. Even when the cursor on the wide graph is directly on a FT8 signal it does > not decode to the receiv

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread David Tiller
Gary, Ask and ye shall receive! I uploaded an unofficial OSX build of 7752 to my google drive here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4DphHV_ItCZbjZDdmt2NnR2cHc Enjoy & 73 de K4DET On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:43 PM, C. Gary Rogers wrote: > Would love you give it a try if there is a OS X version som

[wsjt-devel] FT8 Notes

2017-06-29 Thread Dave 'Doc' Corio
Managed 5 or 6 QSOs with the new mode so far. Two things I notice: 1. Even when the cursor on the wide graph is directly on a FT8 signal it does not decode to the received window unless the text includes my call sign. Not major, but took a bit to realize why I wasn't "decoding". 2. Your m

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Greg Beam
Hi Bill, I tried to connect with you a couple times, but I wasn't making it in on your side. I think the best I had you was ~ -16gb or so, maybe a little better. Looks like us HF sloth's are gonna have to learn how to operate VHF high speed mode :-) G. On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Bill Some

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Greg Beam
Here's an issue "I think". If you set (check) auto-seq, then, during the QSO, set a different response than what it expects, say 73's instead of the RRR message, WSJT-X automatically sends the report message message if the other station sent a report instead of RRR. I got caught in a do-loop with

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread C. Gary Rogers
Would love you give it a try if there is a OS X version somewhere…Gary KO3F > On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net> wrote: > > > > On 30/06/2017 9:10 AM, Joe Taylor wrote: >> Is anyone using "T10"? When I've checked recently, usage seemed to be close >> to zero. >>

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Dan Malcolm
The Log4OM Forum is currently off line, or I would not bother you guys, and feel free to tell me to suck it up. Is there a way to get Log4OM to accept the FT8 mode? -Original Message- From: Laurie, VK3AMA [mailto:_vk3a...@vkdxer.net] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:28 PM To: wsjt-devel@l

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
On 30/06/2017 9:10 AM, Joe Taylor wrote: Is anyone using "T10"? When I've checked recently, usage seemed to be close to zero. In any eveny, we had no idea that "~" was being used to flag a T10 decode. (Or, for that metter, that you were using those flags in JTAlert.) Maybe you can tell i

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/06/2017 00:15, Greg Beam wrote: I just decoded Joe working Bill. All be it, I did not decode Bill. Hi Greg, I am only running 3W. If you want a QSO I can QRO a bit. 73 Bill G4WJS. -- Check out the vibrant tech

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 30/06/2017 00:10, Joe Taylor wrote: Maybe you can tell it's FT8 because I (mistakenly) left two spaces between "~" and the start of message, rather than one. :-) Hi Joe & Laurie, I would take that as a joke! It will have to change as too much relies on the exact positioning of the message

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Dan Malcolm
I am also having problems with logging. FT8 is not recognized (yet). I listed it as 'SSB' and put "Mode=FT8" in the remarks, but that is just a stop gap measure. Log4OM initially accepted but then rejected FT8, and I haven't found a way to make that acceptable to Log4OM. I have to say though th

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Laurie, On 6/29/2017 6:35 PM, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: The "~" mode character will be a problem. It is the character chosen by JTDX for the T10 mode and would explain an earlier message that indicated that a FT8 spot on HamSpots appeared as T10 (likely came from JTAlert which spots "~" decodes

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
On 30/06/2017 7:41 AM, Dan Malcolm wrote: I also notice that there is a tilde between "Freq" and "Message" in the "Band Activity" window. Is that an FT8 encoding indicator or a place holder? The "~" mode character will be a problem. It is the character chosen by JTDX for the T10 mode and wo

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Dan Malcolm
Thanks Bill. I had forgotten you could do that with the frequency list. I generally don't keep anything but defaults. I also notice that there is a tilde between "Freq" and "Message" in the "Band Activity" window. Is that an FT8 encoding indicator or a place holder? -Original Message- F

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 29/06/2017 22:19, Dan Malcolm wrote: I also noticed that the dropdown band list did not have an entry for 20m FT8. I was a simple matter to add it. I assume some of this is because FT8 is new and just in the experimental stage. Presumably these things will be taken care of in due course and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Dan Malcolm
I was able to compile v1.7.1-devel with the new mode. Once up and running I did spot FA1ABL calling CQ @ 14.079+1300. I wanted to just lurk awhile first so I didn't answer him but hoped he would find someone to QSO with. He didn't. A while later he spotted me and reported it through HamSpots. I

Re: [wsjt-devel] new FT8 mode decoding

2017-06-29 Thread Jay Hainline
Thanks Bill. I am guessing signals like that will be kinda typical. Will be looking forward to better things. 😊 73 Jay -Original Message- From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: June 29, 2017 21:11 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] new FT8

Re: [wsjt-devel] new FT8 mode decoding

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 29/06/2017 21:02, Jay Hainline wrote: My message got bounced for being too large. So posting again with 2 wav files instead of 3. Recorded from 50313. Please check the signal around 1050 hz. I was not able to decode. Hi Jay, those are probably too weak for the FT8 decoder at this early sta

[wsjt-devel] FT8 mode test results

2017-06-29 Thread David White
FT8 testing went well here. I had QSOs on 50.313Mhz, 18.105Mhz, and 14.079Mhz. It's much like operating JT65 or JT9 but faster. The auto-sequence worked fine, a few times repeating a transmission if needed until the proper response was decoded. I like FT8 mode already, even without the planned

[wsjt-devel] FT8 built and monitoring

2017-06-29 Thread David Birnbaum
I've got a build of r7752 running on my FT450 here in Tampa (EL88ra). Mostly monitoring 6M on 50.313. dave k2lyv -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Wolfgang, Was your QSO on 50.313? Will this be a good operating frequency for FT8 in IARU Region 1 ? -- Joe, K1JT On 6/29/2017 3:10 PM, Wolfgang wrote: Hello all, had my first QSO with CT1FBK a few minutes ago. Thanks Miguel, CT1FBK, for the reply to my very first CQ Next QSO

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Wolfgang
Title: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs Hello all, had my first QSO with CT1FBK a few minutes ago. Thanks Miguel, CT1FBK, for the reply to my very first CQ Next QSO was with F1ABL Smooth, fast and fine :-) 73 de Wolfgang OE1MWW -- Amateur radio is the most ex

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Tamás Fábián
I'm going to try and compile it on Ubuntu 17.04 "zesty" (Linux 4.10.0-26-generic x86-64) at next weekend. If someone happens to be faster, and can send me a binary, I'll surely be on the air ;) Cheers, Tamas HA5FTL 2017-06-29 20:32 GMT+02:00 George J Molnar : > Compiled and run without inciden

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV)
Also compiled and running without issues. Decoded NV0O on 17 meters (I was working on the honeydo list around the house so wasn't able to respond) but am back on 17 now and calling CQ. 73, Jim S. N2ADV > On Jun 29, 2017, at 2:32 PM, George J Molnar wrote: > > Compiled and run without incid

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QSO Start & End Times

2017-06-29 Thread Neil Zampella
Bill & Mike, don't know if you got this or not. I saw it come back on the reflector, but didn't see any comments from y'all. Thanks, Neil, KN3ILZ On 6/26/2017 10:36 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: Sorry guys ... I'm been busy with other things that are interfering with my ham radio time .. :)

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread George J Molnar
Compiled and run without incident on Mac OS 10.12.6 (beta). Monitored signal quality seems good. No contacts… yet! George J Molnar Nevada, USA KF2T @GJMolnar -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the w

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Jay Hainline
Joe, I tried again and it seemed to work ok. I had my cursor on 1000 hz and N8JX called at 2000 hz and I decoded ok. False alarm I think. There might have been some meteor doppler or multipath playing when I tried the first time. 73 Jay -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@p

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: Working frequency suggestions

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 26/06/2017 19:16, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon,6/26/2017 11:07 AM, Bill Somerville wrote: BTW the definition of narrow band digital modes is problematic as region 3 defines NB as not exceeding 2kHz bandwidth even though it shares spectrum with SSB which is allowed up to 6kHz b/w. That means regi

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Jay Hainline
I made my first QSO with the new mode with N8JX. It seems to work smoothly. One thing noticed it does not seem that bandpass decoding is available yet? I could not decode until I placed the marker on top of his signal. 73 Jay KA9CFD -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princet

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV)
I'm compiling now - count me in! 73, Jim S. N2ADV > On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > >> On 29/06/2017 18:37, char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote: >> Built and running - no on-air tests yet. > > Hi Charlie, > > if you want a test QSO I'm sure we can find a ban

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Bill Somerville
On 29/06/2017 18:37, char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote: Built and running - no on-air tests yet. Hi Charlie, if you want a test QSO I'm sure we can find a band we can work on. 73 Bill G4WJS. -- Check ou

[wsjt-devel] Need r7752 build for Windows XP /32

2017-06-29 Thread Adrian Fabry
Dear friends, I would like very much to experiment with the new mode FT8, especially on 6m multi hop. I tried to install JTSDK but it won't work on my Windows XP. Can anyone please build an r7752 (or latest) for Windows XP SP3 / 32 bits? Many thanks, 73 Ady YO2NAA ---

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Charlie, On 6/29/2017 1:37 PM, G3WDG wrote: Built and running - no on-air tests yet. Noticed that the 15s period is insufficient to get the cw id in. RR, we're aware of this. Will probably need to devote a full Tx period to CW ID, for those who need it. -- Joe, K1JT --

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread charlie
Hi Joe Built and running - no on-air tests yet. Noticed that the 15s period is insufficient to get the cw id in. Charlie > Dear Development Colleagues, > > Steve (K9AN) and I have developed a potential new mode for WSJT-X. > We're calling the mode "FT8" (Franke-Taylor design, 8-FSK modulation).

[wsjt-devel] FT8 operating frequencies

2017-06-29 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi all, It will help to have some initial frequency coordination among those testing the new FT8 mode in WSJT-X v1.7.1. To help get things started, we suggest using the following frequencies: BandMHz - 160 1.841 80 3.579 40 7.079 30 10.141 20 14.079 17 18.1

[wsjt-devel] FT8: Potential new mode for fast QSOs

2017-06-29 Thread Joe Taylor
Dear Development Colleagues, Steve (K9AN) and I have developed a potential new mode for WSJT-X. We're calling the mode "FT8" (Franke-Taylor design, 8-FSK modulation). FT8 is designed for situations like multi-hop Es where signals may be weak and fading, openings may be short, and you want fas