Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-17 Thread Philip Gladstone
Bill The length of the UDP packet does not seem to be the issue. It turns out that the packet loss rate that I'm seeing has gone *way* down and is now negligible. I suspect that there was a congested link somewhere. However, I can only spot lost packets if I get the occasional packet -- and it app

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-17 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/06/2020 02:23, Philip Gladstone wrote: There are a (small) number of WSJT-X users who have difficulty reporting their spots to pskreporter. Some of these are in "difficult" areas of network connectivity (e.g. Marine Mobile) and I suspect that the UDP transport is losing most of their pack

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-07 Thread Topher Petty
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-07 Thread Philip Gladstone
Wow -- that generated a lot of discussion. In no particular order: * Yes, the test server should be working on UDP and TCP. * Yes, you can send the UDP packets when they are full. The 5 minute constraint is a hold over from the days when there were only a couple of spots in that time and I wanted

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Since you're already batching the reports in 5 minute intervals I wouldn't keep the connection open.Just make it, report, and close it.  And if it gets an error just drop 'em and maybe stuff a message in the decode window (rather than a dialog box) that says "PSK Reporter error" maybe with the e

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-07 Thread Adrian
Hi Peter et all,  I have some experience in DMR & multimode servers using udp for voice packets in the 'one shot hope for the best result' connectionless nature of UDP traffic needed to handle the immense traffic load and also multiple streams together, such as the DMR openbridge system, How

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-07 Thread Bill Somerville
On 07/06/2020 02:23, Philip Gladstone wrote: There are a (small) number of WSJT-X users who have difficulty reporting their spots to pskreporter. Some of these are in "difficult" areas of network connectivity (e.g. Marine Mobile) and I suspect that the UDP transport is losing most of their pack

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Robert A. Klahn (AD6I)
s best) implemented there. > > 73 > > Steve I > VK3VM / VK3SIR > > *From:* Peter Sumner > *Sent:* Sunday, 7 June 2020 3:43 PM > *To:* WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter > > Hi Adrian, messages via TCP put a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Robert A. Klahn (AD6I)
Hi Peter: While its true that the TCP protocol puts additional computing requirements on both the sender (the local PC) and the recipient to guarantee the reliable, ordered, and error-checked delivery of data, these additional requirements are nearly insignificant in modern fast networks and ne

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Stephen VK3SIR
To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter Hi Adrian, messages via TCP put a requirement on the local PC to handle errors which all add complexity and resources to do it. The messages have to be sent, an answer waited for and if no answer, sent again until a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Peter Sumner
Hi Adrian, messages via TCP put a requirement on the local PC to handle errors which all add complexity and resources to do it. The messages have to be sent, an answer waited for and if no answer, sent again until a time out is received, then handle this time out... UDP on the other hand is a send

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Adrian
This sounds like a great idea. I am surprised it is not already done via tcp. On 7/6/20 11:23 am, Philip Gladstone wrote: There are a (small) number of WSJT-X users who have difficulty reporting their spots to pskreporter. Some of these are in "difficult" areas of network connectivity (e.g. M

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and PSKReporter

2020-06-06 Thread Philip Gladstone
There are a (small) number of WSJT-X users who have difficulty reporting their spots to pskreporter. Some of these are in "difficult" areas of network connectivity (e.g. Marine Mobile) and I suspect that the UDP transport is losing most of their packets. The general loss rate seems to be around 1%-