Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

l Message - From: Dominik Wujastyk To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms Sent: 24 October 2010 19:16 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community Here's what TeX does with "biography" and "biographical" (using \sh

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

--- From: Dominik Wujastyk To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms Sent: 24 October 2010 19:16 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community Here's what TeX does with "biography" and "biographical" (using \showhyphens

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 08:16:07PM +0200, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: >1. Underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 6--6 >[] \OT1/cmr/m/n/10 bio-graphy bio-graph-ical >2. Underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 9--9 >[] \OT1/cmr/m/n/10 bi-og-ra-phy bi-o-graph-i

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

single consonant, > split a group of consonants, though it isn't that straightforward of > course). > > John > > - Original Message - > *From:* Dominik Wujastyk > *To:* Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms > *Sent:* 23 October 2010 17:51 > *Subjec

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

> Frank Liang's Patgen algorithms allow for ranking of hyphenation points, if > I recall correctly, but that information is thrown away by TeX. Do you mean the numbers ranging from 1 to 9 that are present in the hyphenation patterns? They're not meant for ranking the hyphenation points, but mer

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

l Message - > *From:* Dominik Wujastyk > *To:* Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms > *Sent:* 23 October 2010 17:51 > *Subject:* Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly > community > > On 23 October 2010 16:20, John Was wrote: > >

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 08:45:25AM +0100, John Was wrote: > I used to dream of a system > which would allow ranking of hyphenation points, though it's a pretty immense > task; the solitary one in biography' is surely unacceptable.) I read that Taco is planning for weighted hyphenation in luatex, s

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

John Was wrote: Is there some mistake? The Oxford Guide to Style does have pretty extensive coverage of word division in each of its language sections (which are numerous): Greek word division is section 11.25.4 on page 299, for example. (Some fairly awful typos throughout that work, including

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

ot; Sent: 23 October 2010 16:51 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community Judson Herrman wrote: Ironically, the handiest guide to Greek hyphenation I know of is the 39th edition of Hart's Rules for Compositors and Readers at OUP. I found an expen

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

efore authors ever got to see the compositor's work). John - Original Message - From: Dominik Wujastyk To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms Sent: 23 October 2010 17:55 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Original Message - From: Dominik Wujastyk To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms Sent: 23 October 2010 17:51 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community On 23 October 2010 16:20, John Was wrote: [...] Getting back to TeX-r

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Actually it was Syriac and the compositor was John Bowley... John - Original Message - From: "Gareth Hughes" To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms" Sent: 23 October 2010 17:41 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly

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On 10/23/2010 12:41 PM, Gareth Hughes wrote: On the matter of declining skills in typesetting I'm reminded of an Oxford apocryphon of a printer who was preparing a Sanskrit grammar. The printer contacted the author, an esteemed professor, with a crucial error in the Sanskrit text. The professor f

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

tirely to me, and I fear that laxity in this matter >> > will pervade future fascicules as it did in some of those that preceded >> > my involvement. When I asked the compilers to keep a look-out for any >> > bad hyphenations that I might have missed in perusing and correcting the >> > p

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me, and I fear that laxity in this matter > > will pervade future fascicules as it did in some of those that preceded > > my involvement. When I asked the compilers to keep a look-out for any > > bad hyphenations that I might have missed in perusing and correcting th

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

On 23 October 2010 16:20, John Was wrote: [...] > Getting back to TeX-related matters, the hyphenation patterns available in > XeTeX (even to 'plain' users like myself) are an enormous help, even if I > disagree with the English at frequent points > [...] > Phil Taylor, Graham Toal, and I were i

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

the rules! > > John > > > > ----- Original Message - From: > To: > Sent: 23 October 2010 15:05 > Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly > community > > >> Yes, as you would guess, the copy-editor marked up my files by han

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

ions that I might have missed in perusing and correcting the proofs, they asked me to explain the rules! John - Original Message - From: To: Sent: 23 October 2010 15:05 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community Yes, as you would guess, the co

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Judson Herrman wrote: Ironically, the handiest guide to Greek hyphenation I know of is the 39th edition of Hart's Rules for Compositors and Readers at OUP. I found an expensive used copy, and I believe the material on typesetting foreign languages is absent from later editions. The 39th~edn

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

> fascicules as it did in some of those that preceded my involvement. When I > asked the compilers to keep a look-out for any bad hyphenations that I > might have missed in perusing and correcting the proofs, they asked me to > explain the rules! > > John > > > > - O

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Yes, as you would guess, the copy-editor marked up my files by hand and sent me the hard copy. Recent OUP critical editions in Greek prose could use a lot more copy-editing; I would assert that their production standards in this area have fallen drastically in the last decade. We have new edition

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

2010 16:36 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community I'm a classicist editing Greek texts and I also recently found OUP willing to let me set my own book with XeTeX and submit PDF to them. It wasn't hard to convince them at all, actually, since it looks

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

I'm a classicist editing Greek texts and I also recently found OUP willing to let me set my own book with XeTeX and submit PDF to them. It wasn't hard to convince them at all, actually, since it looks good and saves them time and production expense. The production process went really smoothly, all

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Hi, I do research in medieval Celtic Studies. Anyway, I am in a bit of a hurry so I will just say this: I use pandoc to convert between XeLaTeX and Open Office and, from there, into Word. This has worked pretty well for me when sending to journals in my field and it supports XeTeX. I wrote a bl

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Dear Dr McCollum, In my field, which is Sanskrit and classical Indian studies (indology), many people are using LaTeX, and especially, now, XeLaTeX. One of the factors has been the package Ledmac , which allows for producing complex critical editions, something tha

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

to Word, though a perfect replica of the format of the PDF is surely rather unlikely. John - Original Message - From: "Gareth Hughes" To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms" Sent: 22 October 2010 17:33 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output i

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

John Was wrote: > Hello Hello, John. > If it's of any interest, I have been using TeX for many years now to > produce OUP humanities publications (Oxford Studies in Ancient > Philosophy, recent fascicules of the Medieval Latin Dictionary from > British Sources [British Academy but published by OU

Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

letting through too many typos. John - Original Message - From: "Gareth Hughes" To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms" Sent: 22 October 2010 15:42 Subject: Re: [XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community McCollum, A

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McCollum, Adam wrote: > Dear list members, > > I realize that for publications in math and the sciences using TeX, > etc. has been common, and perhaps even strongly encouraged or > required, for many years. It is, alas, not yet at least, so in the > humanities generally. Thanks to XeLaTeX's abilit

[XeTeX] (Xe)LaTeX output in a non-(Xe)LaTeX scholarly community

Dear list members, I realize that for publications in math and the sciences using TeX, etc. has been common, and perhaps even strongly encouraged or required, for many years. It is, alas, not yet at least, so in the humanities generally. Thanks to XeLaTeX's ability to work well with non-Latin s