Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

TANSTAAFL == "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" q.v. Disclaimer: Though I use Debian rather than Ubuntu, I often find this forum useful. On 07/12/2017 02:01 AM, Joao Monteiro wrote: Hi all, For those who may not have read it in the thread wh

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > TANSTAAFL == "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" > q.v. > > Disclaimer: Though I use Debian rather than Ubuntu, I often find this > forum useful. > Same to me. I mean I find useful. But

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

Hi Richard, Thanks. Not knocking it, just being realist and aware of my own limitations - and capabilities alike, of course. Yes, I did find a way indeed... which is why I sustain that if I can do it, everybody can. And yet, I'm aware that there's a myriad of reasons why sometimes we may not be a

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

Really hard, not impossible, Guan. Where there is a will, there is a way. And there's a will already... with patience, the way will come ;) On 13 Jul 2017 00:55, "Guang Chao" wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Richard Owlett > wrote: > >> TANSTAAFL == "There ain't no such thing as a

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Thanks. Not knocking it, just being realist and aware of my own > limitations - and capabilities alike, of course. > > Yes, I did find a way indeed... which is why I sustain that if I can do > it, everybody can. And yet, I'm

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

And that's not a bad thing, Guang, on the contrary variety, choices, creativity... the very spices of Life itself. What is needed is a common base upon which to build all that diversity. So, if I'm grasping this right, getting the major players creating a unified version of a kernel would do

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

I'd love to get stuck in to writing/proof-reading good docs for the Linux community. I've done this professionally for University Radiation Protection. This the point; the writer/proof-reader needs to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the subject and/or experts to correct misapprehensions and ro

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

| What is needed is a common base upon which to build all that diversity. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel Linus wrote a kernel to help his students and long story short gave it to the world. The FOSS community adopted it and now we have diversity. The arguments to reduce this d

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

Ohhh I s agree with you both, David & Fred (btw, welcome back David, hope you are well my friend). I have for my whole life stating that the only constant in Life is Change. I stand for it. But hey... picture this... This is exactly what I meant by having the major players joining togeth

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > Ohhh I s agree with you both, David & Fred (btw, welcome back David, > hope you are well my friend). > > I have for my whole life stating that the only constant in Life is Change. I > stand for it. > > But hey... picture this... > > T

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

Got to love your humbleness hahaha... But yeah, I understand what you're saying. But read my idea again please... It's not so far fetched or dreamy as it may sound snd it's doable... if the major players are willing to join efforts to pull it off. A real building with a real setup like mentioned

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > And that's not a bad thing, Guang, on the contrary variety, choices, > creativity... the very spices of Life itself. > > What is needed is a common base upon which to build all that diversity. > But imagine. Let's say Content Managemen

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:25:03 +0800 Guang Chao wrote: > But on the downside, open source is so fragmented. See how many > distro there are. How many desktop manager. How many projects doing > the same thing. Instead of the large majority focusing on only few > good ones, programmers are scatt

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

Dang, Steve, it's official... you are the devil's advocate's assistant...lol... I do agree wit you and those that stand for variety, diversity, choices-availability and freedom. What I have been trying to figure, is a way of having a distro dedicated of acting as a life-saver, a safe and easy to

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

> We won't achieve a "unified" system base unless and until we have. > either a monopoly that actually runs ALL computers, or a far better > educational system that teaches everyone how to use a computer well > enough to learn from the real unified level (Linux kernel & GNU > utilities) up. and...