On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net>
wrote:

> TANSTAAFL == "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
> q.v. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TANSTAAFL>
>
> Disclaimer: Though I use Debian rather than Ubuntu, I often find this
> forum useful.
>

Same to me.  I mean I find useful.  But I guess many Linux user don't use
just one particular distro.  For me, Debian for servers and Ubuntu on my
desktop.


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> On 07/12/2017 02:01 AM, Joao Monteiro wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those who may not have read it in the thread where I mentioned
>> it, the purpose of this thread is simple:
>>
>> My humble way of giving a contribution to the community within my
>> rookie means, in a threefold manner...
>>
>
> Don't knock it. Not only do you recognize (perhaps unconsciously)
> TANSTAAFL, but you saw a means to contribute by means other than
> programming. Other ways include proof reading &/or writing documentation
> and filing good bug reports.
>

Good docs are really hard to do, but is super useful.  Very few open source
projects can boast of great docs.


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>> 1) The original subject of a thread usually gets lost in the twists
>> and turns that the replies take, often going astray into subjects
>> that have nothing to do with their original subject.
>>
>
> I assume you are referring to
> <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2017-July/010229.html>.
>
>
> When that deviation from the original sibject happens, people are
>> welcome to bring that deviation into here. That way the threads can
>> remain as useful references to their titled subjects and with
>> valuable info pertaining to that subject alone
>>
>
> You have chosen one of the possible solutions, one appropriate to your
> apparent goals.
> In this post I chose a different method to achieve two goals:
>   A. maintain close relationship to original thread.
>   B. identify aspect of interest.
>
>
>> 2) To bring forth insights into pros and cons of one too many things
>> linux related and
>>
>> 3) To gather as many and varied views and opinions - preferably with
>> sensible explanations as to "why" - as possible, which can bring
>> precious insights into the needs and expectations that users have
>> from their particular linux distro (in this case xubuntu xfce);
>> a graphical or musical user will have different needs and
>> expectations than a math teacher, an
>> average user, a programmer, a forensic analyst, etc...
>>
>> This can in due course offer a substantial picture, map, of what is
>> lacking, what can be improved and how, etc...
>>
>> I have asked Ralph to please be the Prosecutor beating the crap out
>> of me, who will be the horned bugger's advocate :) .... I hope he
>> accepts, as he has very good views and strong opinions well
>> reasoned...
>>
>> So... I'll open it with a subject that is pertinent enough to have
>> some buying me a coffee and others hanging me by my balls :)
>>
>> Give me a few minutes to dawn a pair of kevlar undies and I'll kick
>> start the fuss :)
>>
>>
> I classify software differently than some people. I have a strong
> preference for FOSS for its emphasis on "free/libre" as in "free" speech.
> This is in contrast to "free/gratis". NOTE BENE: there there are many cases
> where proprietary software is available gratis - e.g. proprietary device
> drivers.
>
> I've been a computer *USER* since taking a required programming course as
> an E.E. student in the early 60's. My PC's have ranged from a Kim with 1k
> RAM, through some CPM-80 systems with 16-64k to my my current 3GB Debian
> Stretch systems [with long detour using MS DOS -> WinXP].
>
> I abandoned MS when they drifted from being a useful tool to requiring me
> to think in line with "the ONE true path" The final break was they
> effectively wanted me to rent new software that didn't meet my
> needs/desires any better than nominally obsolete product.
>
> It is often not recognized that Microsoft, Apple, Canonical, Red Hat,
> Debian, and Ubuntu have something very much in common. They have one
> purpose in mind - providing product that matches their specific view of
> what the customer needs. I tried multiple distros - Debian was the best fit
> for _me_ [sometimes in hard to explicitly define ways].
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