[Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Chris, You've changed me! Or at least changed my mind - for whatever that's worth. Seriously of course you're right, but that was part of my questioning in the first place. You're not going to change the circumstances like the weather, but you can change YOUR attitude towards that - and maybe

Re: [Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Bless you too. who else could I change? On Oct 31, 2012 6:43 PM, "Bill!" wrote: > Chris, > > Okay. I can buy that. Maybe it's like saying the Bodhisattva vows out > loud. Actually as I'm typing that does make more sense now because if you > say it out loud it becomes sound - an experience and

[Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Chris, Okay. I can buy that. Maybe it's like saying the Bodhisattva vows out loud. Actually as I'm typing that does make more sense now because if you say it out loud it becomes sound - an experience and therefore something real - a not just a thought. So, thanks to your wisdom below, I'd s

Re: [Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Sometimes I can increase my clarity regarding some thought or other by saying it aloud, and listening to my sounds. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 31, 2012, at 17:35, "Bill!" wrote: > Chris, > > You're correct on the 'sacred' stuff. Stuff's stuff. > > You say "...a

[Zen] Re: Allegri - Miserere Mei, Deus

Joe, Thanks! That was VERY nice...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Bill!, > > Thank you! > > In return, a short classic performed by Hayley Westenra, New Zealander of > Dutch extraction. Grown-up child-prodigy. > > A performance in the 2006 "Celtic Woman" production

[Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Chris, You're correct on the 'sacred' stuff. Stuff's stuff. You say "...asking for something specific is not the major sort - asking to be a more helpful or courageous friend is just as useful." Ask whom? Yourself? If so, why ask? Why not just be? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.c

[Zen] Re: Allegri - Miserere Mei, Deus

Bill!, Thank you! In return, a short classic performed by Hayley Westenra, New Zealander of Dutch extraction. Grown-up child-prodigy. A performance in the 2006 "Celtic Woman" production, of "Lascia ch'io pianga". She was the outstanding star. It's her natural grace, you know. And her voice

[Zen] Re: Do you get angry at any one?

Suresh, Yes, I understood already what you say below: > Please note my hectic life style do not allow much time even for simple > exercises. But nonetheless, I mean ALL that I have written already, and I intend it to be helpful. In practice, one ALWAYS begins where one is, and does what one c

[Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Merle, Bill, et al., My teacher Sheng Yen was pretty clear about "Prayer"! (But please understand that a Zen teacher teaches different ways at different times. This is because there is no fixed "TRUTH" -- no fixed Dharma, they say -- so, a teacher dispenses only what is practical, and what can

[Zen] Re: the story of the cloud

Merle, That book sounds interesting. I wonder: what is the title? And who wrote it? Is it still in print? Just out?, or has it been available for a while? I wonder if you have the nice, large size (8 1/2 x 11 inch pages) classic Taoist books, illustrated with photographs, of Lao Tse's and C

Re: [Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

When nothing is sacred, then everything is sacred Also, praying for others is like donating ten bucks to a campaign - it allows you to be ready for more substantive action later and allows you to tell people you prayed for.X. There are many sorts of prayer, asking for something specific is not th

[Zen] Allegri - Miserere Mei, Deus

One of my all time favorites... Allegri - Miserere Mei, Deus ...Bill!

[Zen] Zen Meditation - Zazen

[Zen] Re: the story of the cloud

Merle, I like that "where have I been". That sounds promising! My major sailing days are over. I might go out again once in a while if I get a chance, but never on my own boat and never for weeks at a time like I used to. I live in the mountains now. My mountain days are just beginning! I h

[Zen] Re: the story of the cloud

Merle, The problem (IMO) is that your are exciting your mind too much. You don't need to "understand through my mind", you need to quiet your mind, your thoughts - like quieting down the waves on the ocean. Reading very seldom accomplishes that. Talking very seldom accomplishes that. And ce

[Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

Merle, My responses are as usual embedded in your post below: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: >  bil...you sound like you do not like edgar? What I've said reveals nothing about my feelings for Edgar. >  why not pray? It's a useless activity, except perha

[Zen] a musical prayer

a musical prayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-Vws8h7fk&feature=related

Re: [Zen] Re: the story of the cloud

 sometimes it happens for me..and i feel.." where have i been"?..it is a good place to be... but as you say the mind must quieten down.  bill are your sailing days over?  did you step ashore in cuba? .merle   Merle, First of all - I want to tell you that whatever changes you made or differ

Re: [Zen] Re: the story of the cloud

 i am reading a book about the breath..last night..then i could not relax to go to sleep..my mind became activated into deep thought...the mind became restless ...the images in the book were beautiful..relating to the seasons, meditation and zen practises...yes billl i do have a problem..m

Re: [Zen] Re: please pray for edgar

 bil...you sound like you do not like edgar?  why not pray?  what does pray mean to you? what do you mean to whom?  pray is pray is pray sacred i care   i pray  that is that and again i ask why not? compassion  universal love and understanding is that not pray? merle   Merle, Why pr