Re: [Zen] Re: Re How to get ride of fear

My teacher once commented (in response to my proposing to not deal with an uncomfortable by saying, "It will pass") "Somethings pass like a bit of dew in the morning, and some things pass like a mountain wearing down into the sea." Thanks, --Chris ch...@austin-lane.net +1-301-270-6524 On Fri, O

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Bill!, That's a GOOD thing. --Joe "Bill!" wrote: > ...when he was asked about death: 'Someday, but not today - not now.' Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To

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Joe, You don't think you're a Prophet? Huh! Could have fooled me... Allow me to rephrase my retort: 'I won't be changing because of your comments in this thread'. I agree I probably will change, and those changes may in part be the result of comments on this forum, and some of those may hav

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Bill!, I bet you WILL be changing. I am no Prophet. Life is change. You don't mean... you're... on your way out? Hence, ...going offline today?, ...turning ops/co-ops over to... Edgar? Lamentations, --Joe > "Bill!" wrote: > > I'm sorry I don't measure up to your standards or meet your e

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Joe, I'm sorry I don't measure up to your standards or meet your expectations. I won't be changing. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Cap'n, > > Don't give up the ship. > > --Joe > > PS Skill comes into it; it's neither art nor science. But there is no > excuse

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Cap'n, Don't give up the ship. --Joe PS Skill comes into it; it's neither art nor science. But there is no excuse for skill-less-ness, especially when skill is called for! That's what our practice is all about, after a point. As you say, well noted; fair enough. Exhale... . ;-) --J. P

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Joe, I appreciate your criticism and think it is well-noted, but 'skillful means' is an art, not a science. What is helpful for some might not work for others, and what seems appropriate for some might seem awkward for others. I'm dancing as fast as I can. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogrou

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Bill!, I don't disagree, and I won't. I'll just note that, sometimes, the ATTACHMENT to the diagnosis of "Attachment" is itself a sickness. And seldom if ever helpful to one who suffers, alas. And this is made worse by any prescriptions made by the dispensing physician to the patient. Usuall

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I agree with James. As with all emotions like fear, anger, love, hate it is not the emotion that is the real problem, it is the ATTACHMENT to the emotion. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "James W. Meritt" wrote: > > > Not so sure getting rid of fear is a good thing. I see having

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Dear Suresh, You hail from Chennai! What a great city. I spent three weeks there this April working with some software engineers and bicycling around the city, trying to learn how to buy coffee without embarrassing myself Buddha nature and the like can't be explained so much, just experienced,

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Suresh, It's very good to see you here. This is "Joe", in Arizona, USA. I am a Zen practitioner, and practice Zen methods, but I am also a Yoga teacher, and I once practiced in Sri Ramana Maharshi's tradition, whom you mentioned. If you spend time outside your house and temporarily away from

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Suresh, My answers to your questions are embedded below: > So in this kind of situation, how can I sit for meditation? In the situation you described it would be very difficult sit zazen, especially to learn to sit zazen. After you've learned it would be less difficult, but still would require

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Dear Mr.Bill, I understand your explanation. But please note I cannot just sit and do meditation. I have two children and both are autistic ( a kind of mental retardation), and hence they wouldn’t allow me to sit for 5 minutes. So I have to be on toes always. And I need to work for me and my fami

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Suresh, What I am about to tell you is my own explanation of Buddha Nature and zen meditation. I only say that because I am not a teacher and there are some on this forum that might have other description. I invite them to respond also... Buddha Nature is a term used to describe q direct expe

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Bill I understand your explanation. Can you explain what Buddha Nature is? Also can you tell me what meditation is? How one can dissolve their own illusion of self? Suresh On 10/18/12, Bill! wrote: > This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (billsm...@hhs1963.org) > Add cleanup rule: > h

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Suresh, Zen does not 'say' anything. It's not a religion or philosophy so doesn't have any specific teachings on fear or anything else for that matter. Zen is a collection of techniques that assist you in realizing Buddha Nature. The most common of these is zen meditation - or zazen. Zazen i

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This on how to get ride of fear. Can you explain what zen says on this Suresh On Oct 18, 2012 5:47 PM, "Bill!" wrote: > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (billsm...@hhs1963.org) Add cleanup > rule

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Suresh, Your post didn't make a lot of sense to me. I hope others on the forum can understand more what you mean to say and reply to you. In the meantime, Welcome! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Suresh" wrote: > > Mr.Bharath, > > So it is your answer and a Trainer and swami Suk