[zfs-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on zfs-discuss (04/16 - 04/30)

2007-05-30 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = zfs-discuss 04/16 - 04/30 = Size of all threads during per

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-30 Thread Sanjeev Bagewadi
Nathan, Some answers inline... Nathan Huisman wrote: = PROBLEM To create a disk storage system that will act as an archive point for user data (Non-recoverable data), and also act as a back end storage unit for virtual machines at a block level. = BUDGET Currently I have about 25-30

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-30 Thread Will Murnane
Questions I don't know answers to are omitted. "I am but a nestling." On 5/31/07, Nathan Huisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = STORAGE REQUIREMENTS 5-10tb of redundant fairly high speed storage What does "high speed" mean? How many users are there for this system? Are they accessing it v

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-30 Thread Dale Ghent
On May 31, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Nathan Huisman wrote: = PROBLEM To create a disk storage system that will act as an archive point for user data (Non-recoverable data), and also act as a back end storage unit for virtual machines at a block level. Here are some tips from me. I notice you m

[zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-30 Thread Nathan Huisman
= PROBLEM To create a disk storage system that will act as an archive point for user data (Non-recoverable data), and also act as a back end storage unit for virtual machines at a block level. = BUDGET Currently I have about 25-30k to start the project, more could be allocated in the ne

[zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-30 Thread Carl Brewer
Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if Lori, or anyone else who actually writes the stuff, has any sort of a 'current state of play' page that describes the latest OS ON release and how it does ZFS boot and installs? There's blogs all over the place, of course, which have a lot of stale information,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?

2007-05-30 Thread Toby Thain
On 30-May-07, at 6:31 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: What comment in particular was that? Sorry, I should have cited it. Blew my chance to moderate by posting to the thread :) http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=236627&cid=19319903 I computed the FUD factor by sorting the items into known bug

[zfs-discuss] Multiple OpenSolaris boxes with access to zfs pools

2007-05-30 Thread Jeff Bachtel
I have a simple fibre channel SAN setup, with 2 disc arrays and 2 SunFire boxes attached to a FC switch. Each disc array holds a ZFS pool which should be mounted by one OpenSolaris system, and not the other. One of the two pairs was a recent addition to the FC switch (it was previously direct-atta

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored RAID-z2

2007-05-30 Thread Richard Elling
The reliability calculations for these scenarios are described in several articles on my blog. http://blogs.sun.com/relling You do get additional, mirror-like reliability for using the copies property, also described in my blog. Personally, I'd go with mirroring across the shelves. KISS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?

2007-05-30 Thread Jerry Kemp
What comment in particular was that? Jerry K Toby Thain wrote: On 30-May-07, at 4:28 PM, Mark A. Carlson wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss One highly rated comment features some of the first real ZFS FUD I've seen in the wild. Does this signify that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?

2007-05-30 Thread Toby Thain
On 30-May-07, at 4:28 PM, Mark A. Carlson wrote: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss One highly rated comment features some of the first real ZFS FUD I've seen in the wild. Does this signify that ZFS is being taken seriously now? :) --Toby ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored RAID-z2

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Collins
Will Murnane wrote: > Sorry for singling you out, Ian; I meant "Reply to All". This list > doesn't set "reply-to"... > On 5/30/07, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How about 8 two way mirrors between shelves and a couple of hot spares? > That's fine and good, but then losing just one disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored RAID-z2

2007-05-30 Thread Ian Collins
Will Murnane wrote: > Sorry for singling you out, Ian; I meant "Reply to All". This list > doesn't set "reply-to"... > On 5/30/07, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How about 8 two way mirrors between shelves and a couple of hot spares? > That's fine and good, but then losing just one disk

[zfs-discuss] Slashdot Article: Does ZFS Obsolete Expensive NAS/SANs?

2007-05-30 Thread Mark A. Carlson
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/30/0135218&from=rss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Help/Advice needed

2007-05-30 Thread Paul Cooper - Sun HPC High Performance Computing
I have a Solaris 11 build server with build 58 and a zfs scratch filesystem. When trying to upgrade to build 63 using liveupgrade I get the following upon reboot. The machine never comes up. Just keeps giving the error/warning below. Is there something I am doing wrong? WARNING: /[EMAIL PROTECT

[zfs-discuss] iscsi target secured by CHAP

2007-05-30 Thread kristof
Hey all, I'm having the following issue: We have been setting up ZVOL's and we share them via ISCSI All goes well untill we want to secure this via CHAP authentication. When we try to do that, we never succeed in discovering the target from an external initiator. We tested both solaris (b57)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not? Thoughts. Considerations.

2007-05-30 Thread Toby Thain
On 30-May-07, at 12:33 PM, Roch - PAE wrote: Torrey McMahon writes: Toby Thain wrote: On 25-May-07, at 1:22 AM, Torrey McMahon wrote: Toby Thain wrote: On 22-May-07, at 11:01 AM, Louwtjie Burger wrote: On 5/22/07, Pål Baltzersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What if your HW-RAID-control

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored RAID-z2

2007-05-30 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > On 5/30/07, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about 8 two way mirrors between shelves and a couple of hot spares? > > That's fine and good, but then losing just one disk from each shelf fast > enough means the whole array is gone. Then one strong enough pow

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not? Thoughts. Considerations.

2007-05-30 Thread Roch - PAE
Torrey McMahon writes: > Toby Thain wrote: > > > > On 25-May-07, at 1:22 AM, Torrey McMahon wrote: > > > >> Toby Thain wrote: > >>> > >>> On 22-May-07, at 11:01 AM, Louwtjie Burger wrote: > >>> > On 5/22/07, Pål Baltzersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What if your HW-RAID-cont

[zfs-discuss] Re: how to move a zfs file system between disks

2007-05-30 Thread H E
Thanks actually I already saw the script mentioned there. Is it possible to use zfs send/receive when the disk is not mounted? i.e. give it device name as paramter and not zfs partition names? -me2unix This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zf

[zfs-discuss] ZFS snapshots and NFS

2007-05-30 Thread msl
Hello all, Sorry if you think that question is stupid, but i need to ask.. Imagine a normal situation on a NFS server with "N" client nodes. The objects of the shares is software (/usr/ for instance), and the admin wants to make available new versions of a few packages. So, would be nice if t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [storage-discuss] NCQ performance

2007-05-30 Thread Robert B. Wood
On May 29, 2007, at 2:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When sequential I/O is done to the disk directly there is no performance degradation at all. All filesystems impose some overhead compared to the rate of raw disk I/O. It's going to be hard to store data on a disk unless some kind of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: how to move a zfs file system between disks

2007-05-30 Thread Richard Elling
H E wrote: Does it sound possible at all , or cannot be done with the current ZFS commands yet? zfs replace -- richard ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored RAID-z2

2007-05-30 Thread Will Murnane
Sorry for singling you out, Ian; I meant "Reply to All". This list doesn't set "reply-to"... On 5/30/07, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about 8 two way mirrors between shelves and a couple of hot spares? That's fine and good, but then losing just one disk from each shelf fast enough

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-05-30 Thread James C. McPherson
Louwtjie Burger wrote: I know the above mentioned kit (2530) is new, but has anybody tried a direct attached SAS setup using zfs? (and the Sun SG-XPCIESAS-E-Z card, 3Gb PCI-E SAS 8-Port Host Adapter, RoHS:Y - which is the prefered HBA I suppose) Did it work correctly? Yes, it was tested as part

[zfs-discuss] Re: how to move a zfs file system between disks

2007-05-30 Thread Chris Gerhard
You can do this using zfs send and receive. See http://blogs.sun.com/chrisg/entry/recovering_my_laptop_using_zfs for an example. If the file system was remote then you would need to squeeze some ssh commands into the script but the concept is the same. This message posted from opensolaris.o

[zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-05-30 Thread Louwtjie Burger
Hi there I know the above mentioned kit (2530) is new, but has anybody tried a direct attached SAS setup using zfs? (and the Sun SG-XPCIESAS-E-Z card, 3Gb PCI-E SAS 8-Port Host Adapter, RoHS:Y - which is the prefered HBA I suppose) Did it work correctly? Thank you __

[zfs-discuss] Re: how to move a zfs file system between disks

2007-05-30 Thread H E
Does it sound possible at all , or cannot be done with the current ZFS commands yet? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss