Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread David Anderson
Nathan, Keep in mind iSCSI target is only in OpenSolaris at this time. On 05/30/2007 10:15 PM, Nathan Huisman wrote: = QUESTION #1 What is the best way to mirror two zfs pools in order to achieve a sort of HA storage system? I don't want to have to physically swap my disks into another

Re: [zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-31 Thread Marko Milisavljevic
I second that... I am trying to figure out what is missing so that I can use ZFS exclusively... right now as far as I know two major obstacles are no support from installer and issues with live update. Are both of those expected to be resolved this year? On 5/30/07, Carl Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-31 Thread Mike Dotson
I've been using the zfsbootkit to modify my jumpstart images. As far as I know, the kit is the current process for zfs boot until further notice. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/install/files/zfsboot-kit-20060418.i386.tar.bz2 See readme in the package. On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 02:06 -0700,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Darren J Moffat
Since you are doing iSCSI and may not be running ZFS on the initiator (client) then I highly recommend that you run with IPsec using at least AH (or ESP with Authentication) to protect the transport. Don't assume that your network is reliable. ZFS won't help you here if it isn't running on th

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Directory

2007-05-31 Thread kanishk
i wanted to know how does ZFS finds an entry of a file from its dirctory object. anylinks to the code will be highly appriciated. thankx ®ards kanishk ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 31 May 2007, David Anderson wrote: snip . Other: -Others have reported that Sil3124 based SATA expansion cards work well with Solaris. [Sorry - don't mean to hijack this interesting thread] I believe that there is a serious bug with the si3124 driver that has not been addre

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 31 May 2007, Darren J Moffat wrote: Since you are doing iSCSI and may not be running ZFS on the initiator (client) then I highly recommend that you run with IPsec using at least AH (or ESP with Authentication) to protect the transport. Don't assume that your network is reliable. ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Darren J Moffat
Al Hopper wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007, Darren J Moffat wrote: Since you are doing iSCSI and may not be running ZFS on the initiator (client) then I highly recommend that you run with IPsec using at least AH (or ESP with Authentication) to protect the transport. Don't assume that your network

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Directory

2007-05-31 Thread Sanjeev Bagewadi
Kanishk, Directories are implemented as ZAP objects. Look at the routines in that order : - zfs_lookup() - zfs_dirlook() - zfs_dirent_lock() - zap_lookup Hope that helps. Regards, Sanjeev. kanishk wrote: i wanted to know how does ZFS finds an entry of a file from its dirctory object. anyli

[zfs-discuss] Which IO transfer size are zfs using when writing to disk ?

2007-05-31 Thread Erik Lund
The parameters are: maxphys=0x20, sd_max_xfer_size = 0x20 og sd_max_xfer_size = 0x20 Can i be sure that the IO transfer is 2MB or ? I wants to lign up my Sun ST6140 for optimal performance and therefore needs to know the transfer size. This message posted from opensolaris.or

Re: [zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-31 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
I am running the zfsboot from b62. So far, it has been recommended that I not upgrade to a newer build. Malachi On 5/31/07, Mike Dotson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been using the zfsbootkit to modify my jumpstart images. As far as I know, the kit is the current process for zfs boot until

Re: [zfs-discuss] Which IO transfer size are zfs using when writing to disk ?

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
Erik Lund wrote: The parameters are: maxphys=0x20, sd_max_xfer_size = 0x20 og sd_max_xfer_size = 0x20 Can i be sure that the IO transfer is 2MB or ? Use iostat or another tool (DTrace iosnoop.d) to see for sure. Note that these are upper limits... I wants to lign up my Sun S

[zfs-discuss] Re: how to move a zfs file system between disks

2007-05-31 Thread Chris Gerhard
It is not possible to use send and receive of the pool is not imported. It is however possible to use send and receive when the file system is not mounted. --chris This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@ope

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Matty
On 5/31/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since you are doing iSCSI and may not be running ZFS on the initiator (client) then I highly recommend that you run with IPsec using at least AH (or ESP with Authentication) to protect the transport. Don't assume that your network is reliabl

Re: [zfs-discuss] current state of play with ZFS boot and install?

2007-05-31 Thread Lori Alt
Carl's request for a "current state of play" is a reasonable one. I have modified this page: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/netinstall/ to include a list of status updates. I will keep it current so that anyone who wants to know how to install zfs boot using a netinstall can

[zfs-discuss] ZFS consistency guarantee

2007-05-31 Thread ganesh
Hi Folks, how can i guarantee consistency for the ZFS snapshots?. If i am running a db or any other app on my ZFS and want to take a snapshot is there is any filesystem equivalent command to quiesce the ZFS before taking a snapshot or do i have to rely on the app itself?. Can i do something like

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS consistency guarantee

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
ganesh wrote: Hi Folks, how can i guarantee consistency for the ZFS snapshots?. If i am running a db or any other app on my ZFS and want to take a snapshot is there is any filesystem equivalent command to quiesce the ZFS before taking a snapshot or do i have to rely on the app itself?. You al

[zfs-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on zfs-discuss

2007-05-31 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = zfs-discuss 05/01 - 05/15 = Size of all threads during per

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: Now, how can I do a pseudo live upgrade?

2007-05-31 Thread Lori Alt
zfs-boot crowd: I said I'd try to come up with a procedure for liveupgrading the netinstalled zfs-root setup, but I haven't found time to do so yet (I'm focusing on getting this supported in install for real). So while I hate to retreat into the "I never said you could upgrade this configuration

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS consistency guarantee

2007-05-31 Thread Darren Dunham
> how can i guarantee consistency for the ZFS snapshots?. Filesystem consistency or application/data consistency? > If i am running a db or any other app on my ZFS and want to take a > snapshot is there is any filesystem equivalent command to quiesce the > ZFS before taking a snapshot or do i hav

[zfs-discuss] zpool relayout

2007-05-31 Thread Vic Engle
Just a quick question. If I create a raidz pool but then later find that I need more space I can add another raidz set to the pool but what happens to data already in the pool? Does a relayout occur or does zfs work towards balancing I/O to the pool across the 2 raidz sets only as new data is wr

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool relayout

2007-05-31 Thread Darren Dunham
> Just a quick question. If I create a raidz pool but then later find > that I need more space I can add another raidz set to the pool but > what happens to data already in the pool? Does a relayout occur or > does zfs work towards balancing I/O to the pool across the 2 raidz > sets only as new dat

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-05-31 Thread Michael Li
Al Hopper 提到: On Thu, 31 May 2007, David Anderson wrote: snip . Other: -Others have reported that Sil3124 based SATA expansion cards work well with Solaris. [Sorry - don't mean to hijack this interesting thread] I believe that there is a serious bug with the si3124 driver that h

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool relayout

2007-05-31 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 31 May, 2007 - Vic Engle sent me these 0,6K bytes: > Just a quick question. If I create a raidz pool but then later find > that I need more space I can add another raidz set to the pool but > what happens to data already in the pool? Does a relayout occur or > does zfs work towards balancing I/

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS performance measurement

2007-05-31 Thread Durga Deep Tirunagari
Hi folks, We have the following disks :and we want to create a STRIPE c7t2d0 c7t3d0 c7t4d0 c7t5d0 c7t8d0 c7t9d0 c8t2d0 c8t3d0 c8t4d0 c8t5d0 c8t8d0 c8t9d0 What we would like to measure is how the following two STRIPES perform STRIPE ( Created using Solaris Volume Manager ) STRIPE created wit

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS performance measurement

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
Durga Deep Tirunagari wrote: Hi folks, We have the following disks :and we want to create a STRIPE c7t2d0 c7t3d0 c7t4d0 c7t5d0 c7t8d0 c7t9d0 c8t2d0 c8t3d0 c8t4d0 c8t5d0 c8t8d0 c8t9d0 What we would like to measure is how the following two STRIPES perform STRIPE ( Created using Solaris Volum

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: Now, how can I do a pseudo live upgrade?

2007-05-31 Thread Jason King
I've had at least some success (tried it once so far) doing a BFU to cloned filesystem from a b62 zfs root system, I could probably document that if there is interest. I have not tried taking a new ISO and installing the new packages ontop of a cloned fileystem though. On 5/31/07, Lori Alt <[EMA

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs migration

2007-05-31 Thread Krzys
Sorry to bother you but something is not clear to me regarding this process.. Ok, lets sat I have two internal disks (73gb each) and I am mirror them... now I want to replace those two mirrored disks into one LUN that is on SAN and it is around 100gb. Now I do meet one requirement of having more

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS performance measurement

2007-05-31 Thread Durga . Tirunagari
Richard Elling wrote: Durga Deep Tirunagari wrote: Hi folks, We have the following disks :and we want to create a STRIPE c7t2d0 c7t3d0 c7t4d0 c7t5d0 c7t8d0 c7t9d0 c8t2d0 c8t3d0 c8t4d0 c8t5d0 c8t8d0 c8t9d0 What we would like to measure is how the following two STRIPES perform STRIPE ( C

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: Now, how can I do a pseudo live upgrade?

2007-05-31 Thread Tim Foster
Jason King wrote: I've had at least some success (tried it once so far) doing a BFU to cloned filesystem from a b62 zfs root system, I could probably document that if there is interest. Yep, been there too, weather's nice :-) http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/an_easy_way_to_manage (and previ

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS performance measurement

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Elling wrote: Durga Deep Tirunagari wrote: Hi folks, We have the following disks :and we want to create a STRIPE c7t2d0 c7t3d0 c7t4d0 c7t5d0 c7t8d0 c7t9d0 c8t2d0 c8t3d0 c8t4d0 c8t5d0 c8t8d0 c8t9d0 What we would like to measure is how the following two

[zfs-discuss] Delegated Administration?

2007-05-31 Thread Haik Aftandilian
Is it possible to give a user control of a ZFS filesystem such that the user can create their own file systems "within" it, take snapshots, etc.? Thanks, Haik This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensola

[zfs-discuss] Thoughts on CF/SSDs [was: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not?Thoughts.Considerations.]

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
Hi Mike, more thoughts below... Ellis, Mike wrote: Hey Richard, thanks for sparking the conversation... This is a very interesting topic (especially if you take it out of the HPC "we need 1000 servers to have this minimal boot image" space into general purpose/enterprise computing) CF card

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs migration

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
Krzys wrote: Sorry to bother you but something is not clear to me regarding this process.. Ok, lets sat I have two internal disks (73gb each) and I am mirror them... now I want to replace those two mirrored disks into one LUN that is on SAN and it is around 100gb. Now I do meet one requirement

Re: [zfs-discuss] Delegated Administration?

2007-05-31 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Haik Aftandilian wrote: Is it possible to give a user control of a ZFS filesystem such that the user can create their own file systems "within" it, take snapshots, etc.? Thanks, Haik Support for this should be available within the next month or two. You should check out PSARC/2006/465 h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on CF/SSDs [was: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not?Thoughts.Considerations.]

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Elling
Richard Elling wrote: CF cards aren't generally very fast, so the solid state disk vendors are putting them into hard disk form factors with SAS/SATA interfaces. Timing is everything... a new standard might help... let's call it "miCard" http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?ar

[zfs-discuss] zfs boot error recovery

2007-05-31 Thread Jakob Praher
hi all, i would like to ask some questions regarding best practices for zfs recovery if disk errors occur. currently i have zfs boot (nv62) and the following setup: 2 si3224 controllers (each 4 sata disks) 8 sata disks, same size, same type i have two pools: a) rootpool b) datapool the rootpoo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Delegated Administration?

2007-05-31 Thread Haik Aftandilian
Support for this should be available within the next month or two. You should check out PSARC/2006/465 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=47766 This is what I was looking for. Thanks, Haik ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs migration

2007-05-31 Thread Krzys
Hmm, I am having some problems, I did follow what you suggested and here is what I did: bash-3.00# zpool status pool: mypool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM mypool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirrorONLINE

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on CF/SSDs [was: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not?Thoughts.Considerations.]

2007-05-31 Thread Frank Cusack
On May 31, 2007 1:59:04 PM -0700 Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CF cards aren't generally very fast, so the solid state disk vendors are putting them into hard disk form factors with SAS/SATA interfaces. These If CF cards aren't fast, how will putting them into a different form fact

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs migration

2007-05-31 Thread Will Murnane
On 5/31/07, Krzys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so I do run replace command and I get and error: bash-3.00# zpool replace mypool c1t2d0 emcpower0a cannot replace c1t2d0 with emcpower0a: device is too small Try "zpool attach mypool emcpower0a"; see http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5461/6n7ht6qrt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on CF/SSDs [was: ZFS - Use h/w raid or not?Thoughts.Considerations.]

2007-05-31 Thread Bart Smaalders
Frank Cusack wrote: On May 31, 2007 1:59:04 PM -0700 Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CF cards aren't generally very fast, so the solid state disk vendors are putting them into hard disk form factors with SAS/SATA interfaces. These If CF cards aren't fast, how will putting them into

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot error recovery

2007-05-31 Thread Will Murnane
On 5/31/07, Jakob Praher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c) si 3224 related question: is it possible to simply hot swap the disk (i have the disks in special hot-swappable units, but have no experience in hotswapping under solaris, such that i want to have some echo). As it happens, I just happen to

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot error recovery

2007-05-31 Thread Jakob Praher
Jakob Praher schrieb: hi all, i would like to ask some questions regarding best practices for zfs recovery if disk errors occur. currently i have zfs boot (nv62) and the following setup: 2 si3224 controllers (each 4 sata disks) 8 sata disks, same size, same type i have two pools: a) rootpool

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot error recovery

2007-05-31 Thread Jakob Praher
hi Will, thanks for your answer. Will Murnane schrieb: On 5/31/07, Jakob Praher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: c) si 3224 related question: is it possible to simply hot swap the disk (i have the disks in special hot-swappable units, but have no experience in hotswapping under solaris, such that i w