[zfs-discuss] hung when import zpool

2009-01-08 Thread Qin Ming Hua
Hi All, I would like to try zfs Self Healing feature as -- http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/demos/selfheal/ but meet some issue, please see my process. bash-3.00# zpool create mypool mirror c3t5006016130603AE5d7 c3t5006016130603AE5d8 bash-3.00# cd /mypool/ bash-3.00# cp

Re: [zfs-discuss] hung when import zpool

2009-01-08 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi Qin Ming Hua wrote: bash-3.00# zpool import mypool ^C^C it hung when i try to re-import the zpool, has anyone see this before? How long did you wait? Once a zfs import took 1-2 hours to complete (it was seemingly stuck at a ~30 GB filesystem which it needed to do some work on).

[zfs-discuss] Benchmarking ZFS via NFS

2009-01-08 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi all, among many other things I recently restarted benchmarking ZFS over NFS3 performance between X4500 (host) and Linux clients. I've just iozone quite a while ago and am still a bit at a loss understanding the results. The automatic mode is pretty ok (and generates nice 3D plots for the

Re: [zfs-discuss] 'zfs recv' is very slow

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Futerko
Hello Yah, the incrementals are from a 30TB volume, with about 1TB used. Watching iostat on each side during the incremental sends, the sender side is hardly doing anything, maybe 50iops read, and that could be from other machines accessing it, really light load. The receiving side however,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Futerko
Hello This seems like a reasonable proposal to enhance zfs list. But it would also be good to add as few new options to zfs list as possible. So it probably makes sense to add at most one of these new options. Or perhaps add an optional depth argument to the -r option instead? As you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-08 Thread Paul Bartholdi
On 1/8/09, Bill Sommerfeld sommerf...@sun.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 22:18 -0700, Neil Perrin wrote: I vaguely remember a time when UFS had limits to prevent ordinary users from consuming past a certain limit, allowing only the super-user to use it. Not that I'm advocating that

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Tim Foster
hi Rich, On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 10:51 -0500, Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States wrote: As you point out, the -c option is user friendly while the -depth (or maybe -d) option is more general. There have been several requests for the -c option. Would anyone prefer

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread Orvar Korvar
Thank you. How does raidz2 compare to raid-2? Safer? Less safe? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] ZFS iscsi snapshot - VSS compatible?

2009-01-08 Thread James Dean
I don't know if VSS has this capability, but essentially if it can temporarily quiesce a device like a data base does for warm standby then a snapshot should work. This would be a very simple Windows side script/batch: 1) Q-Disk 2) Remote trigger snapshot 3) Un Q-Disk I have no idea where to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS poor performance on Areca 1231ML

2009-01-08 Thread Orvar Korvar
A question: why do you want to use HW raid together with ZFS? I thought ZFS performing better if it was in total control? Would the results have been better if no HW raid controller, and only ZFS? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 17:12, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: The Samsung HD103UJ drives are nice, if you're not using NVidia controllers - there's a bug in either the drives or the controllers that makes them drop drives fairly frequently. Do you happen to have more details about this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS: Log device for rpool (/ root partition) not supported?

2009-01-08 Thread Lin Ling
This is bug 6727463. On 01/07/09 13:49, Robert Bauer wrote: Why is it impossible to have a ZFS pool with a log device for the rpool (device used for the root partition)? Is this a bug? I can't boot a ZFS partition / on a zpool which uses also a log device. Maybe its not supported because

Re: [zfs-discuss] Benchmarking ZFS via NFS

2009-01-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Carsten Aulbert wrote: for the people higher up the ladder), but someone gave a hint to use multiple threads for testing the ops/s and here I'm a bit at a loss how to understand the results and if the values are reasonable or not. I will admit that some research is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Benchmarking ZFS via NFS

2009-01-08 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi Bob. Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Here is the current example - can anyone with deeper knowledge tell me if these are reasonable values to start with? Everything depends on what you are planning do with your NFS access. For example, the default blocksize for zfs is 128K. My example tests

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread Scott Laird
RAID 2 is something weird that no one uses, and really only exists on paper as part of Berkeley's original RAID paper, IIRC. raidz2 is more or less RAID 6, just like raidz is more or less RAID 5. With raidz2, you have to lose 3 drives per vdev before data loss occurs. Scott On Thu, Jan 8,

[zfs-discuss] zfs destroy is taking a long time...

2009-01-08 Thread David Smith
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with how long a zfs destroy of about 40 TB should take? So far, it has been about an hour... Is there any good way to tell if it is working or if it is hung? Doing a zfs list just hangs. If you do a more specific zfs list, then it is okay... zfs

[zfs-discuss] can't import zpool after upgrade to solaris 10u6

2009-01-08 Thread Steve Goldthorpe
Here's what I did: * had a t1000 with a zpool under /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s7 on solaris 10u4 * re-installed with solaris 10u6 (disk layout unchanged) * imported zpool with zpool import -f (I'm forever forgetting to export them first) - this was ok * re-installed with solaris 10u6 and more up-to-date

[zfs-discuss] Odd network performance with ZFS/CIFS

2009-01-08 Thread gnomad
I have just built an opensolaris box (2008.11) as a small fileserver (6x 1TB drives as RAIDZ2, kernel CIFS) for home media use and I am noticing an odd behavior copying files to the box. My knowledge of monitoring/analysis tools under Solaris is very limited, and so far I have just been using

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy is taking a long time...

2009-01-08 Thread David Smith
A few more details: The system is a Sun x4600 running Solaris 10 Update 4. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Benchmarking ZFS via NFS

2009-01-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Carsten Aulbert wrote: My experience with iozone is that it refuses to run on an NFS client of a Solaris server using ZFS since it performs a test and then refuses to work since it says that the filesystem is not implemented correctly. Commenting a line of code in iozone

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy is taking a long time...

2009-01-08 Thread Brian H. Nelson
David Smith wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any experience with how long a zfs destroy of about 40 TB should take? So far, it has been about an hour... Is there any good way to tell if it is working or if it is hung? Doing a zfs list just hangs. If you do a more specific zfs list,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy is taking a long time...

2009-01-08 Thread David W. Smith
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 13:26 -0500, Brian H. Nelson wrote: David Smith wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any experience with how long a zfs destroy of about 40 TB should take? So far, it has been about an hour... Is there any good way to tell if it is working or if it is hung?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:01, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. How does raidz2 compare to raid-2? Safer? Less safe? Raid-2 is much less used, for one, uses many more disks for parity, for two, and is much slower in any application I can think of. Suppose you have 11

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs cp hangs when the mirrors are removed ..

2009-01-08 Thread Brian Leonard
Karthik, did you ever file a bug or this? I'm experiencing the same hang and wondering how to recover. /Brian -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States
On 01/08/09 06:28, Mike Futerko wrote: I'd have a few more proposals how to improve zfs list if they don't contravene the concept of zfs list command. Currently zfs list returns error operation not applicable to datasets of this type if you try to list for ex.: zfs list -t snapshot

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States
On 01/08/09 06:39, Tim Foster wrote: hi Rich, On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 10:51 -0500, Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States wrote: As you point out, the -c option is user friendly while the -depth (or maybe -d) option is more general. There have been several requests for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
[just for the beloved Orvar] Ok, rule of thumb to save you some open time -- anything with z, or j, would probably be safe enough for your baby data. And yeah, I manage my own lunch hours BTW. :-) best, z - Original Message - From: Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 14:38, Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States richard.mor...@sun.com wrote: As you point out, the -c option is user friendly while the -depth (or maybe -d) option is more general. There have been several requests for the -c option. Would anyone

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy is taking a long time...

2009-01-08 Thread Richard Elling
David W. Smith wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 13:26 -0500, Brian H. Nelson wrote: David Smith wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any experience with how long a zfs destroy of about 40 TB should take? So far, it has been about an hour... Is there any good way to tell if it is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com wrote: ok, Scott, that sounded sincere. I am not going to do the pic thing on you. But do I have to spell this out to you -- somethings are invented not for home use? Cindy, would you want to do ZFS at home, or just having

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
But, Tim, you are a super IT guy, and your data is not baby... I just have so many copies of my home baby data, since storage is so so cheap today compared to the wine... [and a baby JAVA thing to keep them in sync...] (BTW, I am not a wine guy, I only do Remy+++) ;-) best, z - Original

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SS4200-E?

2009-01-08 Thread Guido Glaus
I've done it but could not make it to run from the the dom, had to use a usb stick :-) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SS4200-E?

2009-01-08 Thread Nicholas Lee
I've got mine sitting on the floor at the moment. Need to find the time to try out the install. Do you know why it would not work with the DOM? I'm planning to use a spare 4GB DOM and keep the EMC one for backup if nothing works. Did you use a video card to install? On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:46

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Toby Thain
On 7-Jan-09, at 9:43 PM, JZ wrote: ok, Scott, that sounded sincere. I am not going to do the pic thing on you. But do I have to spell this out to you -- somethings are invented not for home use? Cindy, would you want to do ZFS at home, Why would you disrespect your personal data?

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
I was think about Apple's new SSD drive option on laptops... is that safer than Apple's HD or less safe? [maybe Orvar can help me on this] the price is a bit hefty for me to just order for experiment... Thanks! z at home - Original Message - From: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] ZFS iscsi snapshot - VSScompatible?

2009-01-08 Thread Stephen Yum
Okay, so is there an implementation of HyperV or VSS or whatever on the Solaris+ZFS environment? Also, is there something like this if I were to access ZFS-based storage from a Linux client, for example? Since most of my clients will be running some version of Windows while accessing a ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Scott Laird
Today? Low-power SSDs are probably less reliable than low-power hard drives, although they're too new to really know for certain. Given the number of problems that vendors have had getting acceptable write speeds, I'd be really amazed if they've done any real work on long-term reliability yet.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Thanks Scott, I was really itchy to order one, now I just want to save that open $ for Remy+++. Then, next question, can I trust any HD for my home laptop? should I go get a Sony VAIO or a cheap China-made thing would do? big price delta... z at home - Original Message - From: Scott

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Scott?? I am really at a major cross-point in my decision making process -- until today, all my home stuff are Sony, from TV, projector, stereo bricks, all the way to USB SSD sticks. [besides speakers I use Bose] but this laptop thing is really bothering my religious love for Sony. should I or

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Scott Laird
You can't trust any hard drive. That's what backups are for :-). Laptop hard drives aren't much worse than desktop drives, and 2.5 SATA drives are cheap. As long as they're easy to swap, then a drive failure isn't the end of the world. Order a new drive ($100 or so), swap them, and restore

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Thanks much Scott, I still don't know what you are talking about -- my $3000 to $800 laptops all never needed to swap any drive. But yeah, I got hit on all of them when I was in china, by the china web virus that no U.S. software could do anything [then a china open source thing did the job]

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread The Moog
Are you planning to run Solaris on your laptop? Sent from my BlackBerry BoldĀ® http://www.blackberrybold.com -Original Message- From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:27:52 To: Scott Lairdsc...@sigkill.org Cc: Orvar Korvarknatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com;

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
OMG! what a critical factor I just didn't think about!!! stupid me! Moog, please, which laptops are supporting ZFS today? I will only buy within those. z, at home, feeling better, but still a bit confused - Original Message - From: The Moog m...@pixelshift.com To: JZ

Re: [zfs-discuss] Odd network performance with ZFS/CIFS

2009-01-08 Thread gnomad
Ok, I'm going to reply to my own question here. After a few hours of thinking, I believe I know what is going on. I am seeing the initial high network throughput as the 4GB of RAM in the server fills up with data. In fact, in this case, I am bound by the speed of the source drive, which tops

Re: [zfs-discuss] Odd network performance with ZFS/CIFS

2009-01-08 Thread gnomad
test -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread Stephen Yum
I'm trying to set up a iscsi connection (with MPXIO) between my Vista64 workstation and a ZFS storage machine running OpenSolaris 10 (forget the exact version). On the ZFS machines, I have two NICS. NIC #1 is 192.168.1.102, and NIC #2 is 192.168.2.102. The NICs are connected to two separate

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Hi S, sorry, as much as I am Super z, this is beyond me. maybe you can go to china town for a seafood dinner (they are on sale worldwide now), and see if Sun folks would reply? best, z - Original Message - From: Stephen Yum sosu...@yahoo.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org;

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread Stephen Yum
No prob z. When seeing your name, it keeps reminding me of the famous rapper. Which Chinatown are they at? SF? S - Original Message From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: Stephen Yum sosu...@yahoo.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; storage-disc...@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Dear S, that's a regional question beyond our global chinatown inniatives. in NYC, we have the Old, Original chinatown in the city; we have the newer [but I don't go much since that one is more Taiwan than PRC] in Flushing Queens; we have the Cantooness chinatowns in Brooklyn 8th Ave, and Ave U,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread Dave Brown
S, Are you sure you have MPXIO turned on? I haven't dealt with Solaris for a while (will again soon as I get some virtual servers setup) but in the past you had to manually turn it on. I believe the path was /kernel/drv/scsi_vhci.h (I may be missing some of the path) and you changed the

Re: [zfs-discuss] separate home partition?

2009-01-08 Thread noz
Kyle wrote: So if preserving the home filesystem through re-installs are really important, putting the home filesystem in a separate pool may be in order. My problem similar to the original thread author, and this scenario is exactly the one I had in mind. I figured out a workable solution

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread James C. McPherson
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:29:10 -0800 Dave Brown dbr...@csolutions.net wrote: S, Are you sure you have MPXIO turned on? I haven't dealt with Solaris for a while (will again soon as I get some virtual servers setup) but in the past you had to manually turn it on. I believe the path was

Re: [zfs-discuss] separate home partition?

2009-01-08 Thread Andre Wenas
To do step no 4, you need to login as root, or create new user which home dir not at export. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:10 AM, noz sf2...@gmail.com wrote: Kyle wrote: So if preserving the home filesystem through re-installs are really important, putting the home filesystem

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs_space function

2009-01-08 Thread Ian Collins
On Thu 08/01/09 20:36 , kavita kavita_kulka...@qualexsystems.com sent: What exactly does zfs_space function do? The comments suggest it allocates and frees space in a file. What does this mean? And through what operation can i invoke this function? for eg. whenever i edit/write to a file,

Re: [zfs-discuss] separate home partition?

2009-01-08 Thread noz
To do step no 4, you need to login as root, or create new user which home dir not at export. Sent from my iPhone I tried to login as root at the login screen but it wouldn't let me, some error about roles. Is there another way to login as root? -- This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] separate home partition?

2009-01-08 Thread Andre Wenas
You can edit /etc/user_attr file. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:13 AM, noz sf2...@gmail.com wrote: To do step no 4, you need to login as root, or create new user which home dir not at export. Sent from my iPhone I tried to login as root at the login screen but it wouldn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] hung when import zpool

2009-01-08 Thread Qin Ming Hua
It's a 2GB filessystem just for test. I wait about half an hour yesterday, but it import successful with only 20s when i re-tried today. Meanwhile, zfs didn't find any disk issue. (by the demo it should) On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Carsten Aulbert carsten.aulb...@aei.mpg.dewrote: Hi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Odd network performance with ZFS/CIFS

2009-01-08 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:54 PM, gnomad gno...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I'm going to reply to my own question here. After a few hours of thinking, I believe I know what is going on. I am seeing the initial high network throughput as the 4GB of RAM in the server fills up with data. In fact, in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Richard Elling
Scott Laird wrote: Today? Low-power SSDs are probably less reliable than low-power hard drives, although they're too new to really know for certain. Given the number of problems that vendors have had getting acceptable write speeds, I'd be really amazed if they've done any real work on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
OMG, Rich, that did help and solved all my confusion and now I can go to sleep... So now I have to consider Sun and EMC vs Intel in my home $ spending?! Forget it, Lenovo it is! at least my folks get a cut. Goodnight! best, z - Original Message - From: Richard Elling

[zfs-discuss] I/O error when import

2009-01-08 Thread Matthew Zhang
I have a 3 disk raidz configuration, one disk reports lots of error so I decided to replace it. At the same time I replaced the system disk and reinstalled the system(the same version). When I try to import mypool, I got an I/O error. What could I do to import it, replace the new disk(c2d0) with

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Ross
Can I ask why we need to use -c or -d at all? We already have -r to recursively list children, can't we add an optional depth parameter to that? You then have: zfs list : shows current level (essentially -r 0) zfs list -r : shows all levels (infinite recursion) zfs list -r 2 : shows 2 levels of

Re: [zfs-discuss] separate home partition?

2009-01-08 Thread hardware technician
I want to create a separate home, shared, read/write zfs partition on a tri-boot OpenSolaris, Ubuntu, and CentOS system. I have successfully created and exported the zpools that I would like to use, in Ubuntu using zfs-fuse. However, I boot into OpenSolaris, and I type zpool import with no