Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cusack > > >> "Claiming you'd start paying for Solaris if they gave you ZFS for free > >> in Linux is absolutely ridiculous." > > > > *Start* paying? You clearly have NO idea what it cos

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Lanky Doodle > > On the subject of where to install ZFS, I was planning to use either Compact > Flash or USB drive (both of which would be mounted internally); using up 2 of > the drive bays fo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Ian D wrote: > > The answer really depends on what you want to do with > > pool(s). You'll > > have to provide more information. > > Get the maximum of very random IOPS I get can out of those drives for > database usage. > -- > > Random IOPS won't max out the SAS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Ian D
> The answer really depends on what you want to do with > pool(s). You'll > have to provide more information. Get the maximum of very random IOPS I get can out of those drives for database usage. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-di

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Cusack wrote: > On 12/16/10 11:32 AM +0100 Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Note that while there existist > > numerous papers from lawyers that consistently explain which parts of > > the GPLv2 are violating US law and thus are void, > > Can you elaborate? See: http://www.osscc.net/en/gpl.ht

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-18 Thread Frank Cusack
On 12/16/10 11:32 AM +0100 Joerg Schilling wrote: Note that while there existist numerous papers from lawyers that consistently explain which parts of the GPLv2 are violating US law and thus are void, Can you elaborate? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-18 Thread Frank Cusack
On 12/16/10 9:11 AM -0500 Linder, Doug wrote: The only thing I'll add is that I, as I said, I really don't care at all about licenses. Then you have no room to complain or even suggest a specific license! When it comes to licenses, to me (and, I suspect, the vast majority of other OSS users)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

2010-12-18 Thread Frank Cusack
On 12/16/10 10:24 AM -0500 Linder, Doug wrote: Tim Cook wrote: "Claiming you'd start paying for Solaris if they gave you ZFS for free in Linux is absolutely ridiculous." *Start* paying? You clearly have NO idea what it costs to run Solaris in a production environment with support. In my ex

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Ian Collins
On 12/18/10 10:49 AM, Ian D wrote: I have 159x 15K RPM SAS drives I want to build a ZFS appliance with. 75x 145G 60x 300G 24x 600G The box has 4 CPUs, 256G of RAM, 14x 100G SLC SSDs for the cache and a mirrored pair of 4G DDRDrive X1s for the SLOG. My plan is to mirror all these drives and k

Re: [zfs-discuss] a single nfs file system shared out twice with different permissions

2010-12-18 Thread Geoff Nordli
>-Original Message- >From: Edward Ned Harvey >[mailto:opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com] >Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:13 AM >To: 'Geoff Nordli'; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org >Subject: RE: [zfs-discuss] a single nfs file system shared out twice with different >permi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Ian D wrote: > Another question: all those disks are on Dell MD1000 JBODs (11 of them) > and we have 12 SAS ports on three LSI 9200-16e HBAs. Is there any point > connecting each JBOD on a separate port or is it ok cascading them in groups > of three? Is there

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2010-12-18 Thread Lanky Doodle
On the subject of where to install ZFS, I was planning to use either Compact Flash or USB drive (both of which would be mounted internally); using up 2 of the drive bays for a mirrored install is possibly a waste of physical space, considering it's a) a home media server and b) the config can be

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz recovery

2010-12-18 Thread Gareth de Vaux
On Sat 2010-12-18 (14:55), Tuomas Leikola wrote: > have you tried zpool replace? like remove ad6, fill with zeroes, > replace, command "zpool replace tank ad6". That should simulate drive > failure and replacement with a new disk. 'replace' requires a different disk to replace with. How do you "r

Re: [zfs-discuss] copy complete zpool via zfs send/recv

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Budach
Am 18.12.10 15:54, schrieb eXeC001er: 2010/12/18 Stephan Budach > Am 18.12.10 15:14, schrieb Edward Ned Harvey: From: Stephan Budach [mailto:stephan.bud...@jvm.de] Ehh. well. you answered it. sort of. ;) I think I simply didn't dare to overwrite

Re: [zfs-discuss] copy complete zpool via zfs send/recv

2010-12-18 Thread eXeC001er
2010/12/18 Stephan Budach > Am 18.12.10 15:14, schrieb Edward Ned Harvey: > > From: Stephan Budach [mailto:stephan.bud...@jvm.de ] > > Ehh. well. you answered it. sort of. ;) > I think I simply didn't dare to overwrite the root zfs on the destination > > zpool > > with -F, but of course you'r

Re: [zfs-discuss] copy complete zpool via zfs send/recv

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Budach
Am 18.12.10 15:14, schrieb Edward Ned Harvey: From: Stephan Budach [mailto:stephan.bud...@jvm.de] Ehh. well. you answered it. sort of. ;) I think I simply didn't dare to overwrite the root zfs on the destination zpool with -F, but of course you're right, that this is the way to go. What are y

Re: [zfs-discuss] copy complete zpool via zfs send/recv

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Stephan Budach [mailto:stephan.bud...@jvm.de] > > Ehh. well. you answered it. sort of. ;) > I think I simply didn't dare to overwrite the root zfs on the destination zpool > with -F, but of course you're right, that this is the way to go. What are you calling the root zfs on the destinati

Re: [zfs-discuss] a single nfs file system shared out twice with different permissions

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Nordli > > I am trying to configure a system where I have two different NFS shares > which point to the same directory. The idea is if you come in via one path, > you will have read-only

Re: [zfs-discuss] copy complete zpool via zfs send/recv

2010-12-18 Thread Stephan Budach
Am 18.12.10 05:44, schrieb Edward Ned Harvey: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Budach Now, I want to use zfs send -R t...@movetank | zfs recv targetTank/... which would place all zfs fs one level down below targetTank. O

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:16 PM > > While I agree that smaller vdevs are more reliable, your statement > about the failure being more likely be in the same vdev if you have > only 2 vdev's to be a rather useless statement. Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] A few questions

2010-12-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Lesle > > at Dezember, 17 2010, 17:48 wrote in [1]: > > > By single drive mirrors, I assume, in a 14 disk setup, you mean 7 > > sets of 2 disk mirrors - I am thinking of traditional

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mixing different disk sizes in a pool?

2010-12-18 Thread Ian D
Another question: all those disks are on Dell MD1000 JBODs (11 of them) and we have 12 SAS ports on three LSI 9200-16e HBAs. Is there any point connecting each JBOD on a separate port or is it ok cascading them in groups of three? Is there a bandwidth limit we'll be hitting doing that? Thank

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz recovery

2010-12-18 Thread Tuomas Leikola
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Gareth de Vaux wrote: > On Mon 2010-12-13 (16:41), Marion Hakanson wrote: >> After you "clear" the errors, do another "scrub" before trying anything >> else.  Once you get a complete scrub with no new errors (and no checksum >> errors), you should be confident that