Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-12-02 Thread Dushyanth
Hey, Sorry for this revisiting this thread late. What exactly is sync writes ? Do you mean synchronous writes or a app calling fsync() after every write ? TIA Dushyanth -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-20 Thread Dushyanth Harinath
-- From: Richard Elling To: Dushyanth Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness Sent: Nov 18, 2009 21:55 On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Dushyanth wrote: Just to clarify : Does iSCSI traffic from a Solaris iSCSI initiator to a third party target go through

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-19 Thread mbr
Darren J Moffat wrote: Meilicke wrote: I second the use of zilstat - very useful, especially if you don't want to mess around with adding a log device and then having to destroy the pool if you don't want the log device any longer. log devices can be removed as of zpool version 19. no

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Dushyanth Harinath wrote: Thanks a lot. This clears many of the doubts I had. I was actually trying to improve the performance of our email storage. We are using dovecot as the LDA on a set of RHEL boxes and the email volume seems to be saturating the write

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Dushyanth
Hi, Thanks for all the inputs. I did run some postmark tests without slog and with it and did not see any performance benefits on the iSCSI volume. I will repeat them again and post results here. Also pls note that the solarix box is the initiator and the target is a Infortrend S16-R1130

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Dushyanth
the SSD's black-box-filesystem is fragmented? Not very sure - Its a Transcend TS8GSSD25S 2.5 SLC SDD that i could find in our store immdtly. I also have a ACARD ANS-9010 DRAM (http://bit.ly/3cQ4fK) that iam experimenting with. The Intel X25e should arrive soon. Are there any other

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Dushyanth
Just to clarify : Does iSCSI traffic from a Solaris iSCSI initiator to a third party target go through ZIL ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Dushyanth wrote: Just to clarify : Does iSCSI traffic from a Solaris iSCSI initiator to a third party target go through ZIL ? ZFS doesn't know what a block device is. So if you configure your pool to use iSCSI devices, then it will use them. To measure ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Scott Meilicke
I second the use of zilstat - very useful, especially if you don't want to mess around with adding a log device and then having to destroy the pool if you don't want the log device any longer. On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Dushyanth wrote: Just to clarify : Does iSCSI traffic from a Solaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
Scott Meilicke wrote: I second the use of zilstat - very useful, especially if you don't want to mess around with adding a log device and then having to destroy the pool if you don't want the log device any longer. log devices can be removed as of zpool version 19. -- Darren J Moffat

[zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Dushyanth
Hey guys, Iam new to ZFS and have been playing around since few days. Iam trying to improve performance of a iSCSI storage backend by putting the ZIL/log on a SSD. Below are the steps i followed # format /dev/null Searching for disks... The device does not support mode page 3 or page 4, or

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread James Lever
On 18/11/2009, at 7:33 AM, Dushyanth wrote: Now when i run dd and create a big file on /iftraid0/fs and watch `iostat -xnz 2` i dont see any stats for c8t4d0 nor does the write performance improves. I have not formatted either c9t9d0 or c8t4d0. What am i missing ? Last I checked, iSCSI

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Elling
Which OS and release? The behaviour has changed over time. -- richard On Nov 17, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Dushyanth wrote: Hey guys, Iam new to ZFS and have been playing around since few days. Iam trying to improve performance of a iSCSI storage backend by putting the ZIL/log on a SSD. Below

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Dushyanth
Oops - most important info missed - Its OpenSolaris 2009.06 # uname -a SunOS m1-sv-ZFS-1 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris TIA Dushyanth -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Dushyanth
I ran a quick test to confirm James theory - and there is more weirdness # Mirror pool with two 500GB SATA disks - no log device r...@m1-sv-zfs-1:~# zpool create pool1 mirror c8t5d0 c8t2d0 r...@m1-sv-zfs-1:~# zfs create pool1/fs r...@m1-sv-zfs-1:~# cd /pool1/fs r...@m1-sv-zfs-1:/pool1/fs# time

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Scott Meilicke
I am sorry that I don't have any links, but here is what I observe on my system. dd does not do sync writes, so the ZIL is not used. iSCSI traffic does sync writes (as of 2009.06, but not 2008.05), so if you repeat your test using an iSCSI target from your system, you should see log activity.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Nov 17, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Scott Meilicke wrote: I am sorry that I don't have any links, but here is what I observe on my system. dd does not do sync writes, so the ZIL is not used. iSCSI traffic does sync writes (as of 2009.06, but not 2008.05), so if you repeat your test using an iSCSI

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL/log on SSD weirdness

2009-11-17 Thread Miles Nordin
d == Dushyanth dushyant...@directi.com writes: d Performance dropped for some reason the SSD's black-box-filesystem is fragmented? Do the slog-less test again and see if it's still fast. pgpQ5Pzv39hs6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___