[zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Philip Brown
So, another hardware question :) ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the point where it can be used efficiently and cost-effectively on JBODs, rather than having to throw more expensive RAID arrays at it. Only trouble is.. JBODs seem to have disappeared :( Sun/O

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Freddie Cash
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Philip Brown wrote: > So, another hardware question :) > > ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the > point where it can be used efficiently and cost-effectively on JBODs, rather > than having to throw more expensive RAID arrays a

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Freddie Cash
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Philip Brown wrote: > So, another hardware question :) > > ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the > point where it can be used efficiently and cost-effectively on JBODs, rather > than having to throw more expensive RAID arrays a

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Marion Hakanson
p...@bolthole.com said: > Any other suggestions for (large-)enterprise-grade, supported JBOD hardware > for ZFS these days? Either fibre or SAS would be okay. As others have said, it depends on your definition of "enterprise-grade". We're using Dell's MD1200 SAS JBOD's with Solaris-10 and ZFS. O

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Torrey McMahon
On 1/25/2011 2:19 PM, Marion Hakanson wrote: The only special tuning I had to do was turn off round-robin load-balancing in the mpxio configuration. The Seagate drives were incredibly slow when running in round-robin mode, very speedy without. Interesting. Did you switch to the load-balance op

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Marion Hakanson
tmcmah...@yahoo.com said: > Interesting. Did you switch to the load-balance option? Yes, I ended up with "load-balance=none". Here's a thread about it in the storage-discuss mailing list: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=130975&tstart=90 Regards, Marion

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Rocky Shek
...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Philip Brown Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:05 AM To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? So, another hardware question :) ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the point where it can be used

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Lasse Osterild
On 25/01/2011, at 19.04, Philip Brown wrote: > So, another hardware question :) > > ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the > point where it can be used efficiently and cost-effectively on JBODs, rather > than having to throw more expensive RAID arrays at it. >

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Lasse Osterild wrote: > > On 25/01/2011, at 19.04, Philip Brown wrote: >> >> Any other suggestions for (large-)enterprise-grade, supported JBOD hardware >> for ZFS these days? >> Either fibre or SAS would be okay. >> -- > > I'd go with some Dell MD1200's, for us t

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
> -Original Message- > From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org > [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Philip Brown > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:05 AM > To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? > &g

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Ian Collins
On 01/26/11 09:50 AM, Lasse Osterild wrote: I'd go with some Dell MD1200's, for us they ended up being cheaper (incl disks) than a SuperMicro case with the same model disks, and it's way nicer than the low-quality SuperMicro stuff. That's an odd comment. I've used a fair bit of SuperMicro k

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Tue, Jan 25 at 21:28, Peter Tribble wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Lasse Osterild wrote: On 25/01/2011, at 19.04, Philip Brown wrote: Any other suggestions for (large-)enterprise-grade, supported JBOD hardware for ZFS these days? Either fibre or SAS would be okay. -- I'd go wi

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Marc Nicholas
wn > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:05 AM > To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? > > So, another hardware question :) > > ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the > point where it can be used effic

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Philip Brown wrote: > So, another hardware question :) > > ZFS has been touted as taking maximal advantage of disk hardware, to the > point where it can be used efficiently and cost-effectively on JBODs, rather > than having to throw more expensive RAID arrays a

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-26 Thread Lasse Osterild
On 25/01/2011, at 22.39, Ian Collins wrote: > On 01/26/11 09:50 AM, Lasse Osterild wrote: >> I'd go with some Dell MD1200's, for us they ended up being cheaper (incl >> disks) than a SuperMicro case with the same model disks, and it's way nicer >> than the low-quality SuperMicro stuff. > > That

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-26 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Lasse Osterild wrote: >> On 01/26/11 09:50 AM, Lasse Osterild wrote: >> That's an odd comment.  I've used a fair bit of SuperMicro kit over the >> years and I wouldn't describe any of it as "low-quality". > > Nothing odd about it - I've had three SC847E26-JBOD cas

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-27 Thread Rocky Shek
chip work with major RAID controller card. Rocky -Original Message- From: Pasi Kärkkäinen [mailto:pa...@iki.fi] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:30 PM To: Rocky Shek Cc: 'Philip Brown'; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBOD

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-31 Thread Fred Liu
#x27; > Cc: 'Philip Brown'; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? > > Pasi, > > I have not tried the Opensolaris FMA yet. > > But we have developed a tool called DSM that allow users to locate disk >

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-31 Thread Khushil Dep
011 7:02 > > To: 'Pasi Kärkkäinen' > > Cc: 'Philip Brown'; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? > > > > Pasi, > > > > I have not tried the Opensolaris FMA yet. > > > > B

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-31 Thread Fred Liu
Khushil, Thanks. Fred From: Khushil Dep [mailto:khushil@gmail.com] Sent: 星期一, 一月 31, 2011 17:37 To: Fred Liu Cc: Rocky Shek; Pasi Kärkkäinen; Philip Brown; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? You should also check out VA Technologies

Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-31 Thread Rocky Shek
: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs? Khushil, Thanks. Fred From: Khushil Dep [mailto:khushil@gmail.com] Sent: 星期一, 一月 31, 2011 17:37 To: Fred Liu Cc: Rocky Shek; Pasi Kärkkäinen; Philip Brown; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable