FWIW, this is exactly how I remember it, too. She also made a public snit about
how her 12-year old daughter wasn't allowed to pass the sacrament. As I recall,
her marriage broke up again and she declared she'd been a lesbian all along. Bit
of a wacko. Wonder whatever happened to her?
As Elvis mig
Sonia Johnson was excommunicated in the late 1970s for teaching people
not to let missionaries into their homes. She was pushing the Equal
Rights Amendment, which the Church opposed. She wanted to put political
pressure on the Church by having people not allow missionaries into their
homes. She ref
I wonder if you're talking about Tim. No need to answer that.
Valerie Nielsen Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:31:22 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >
> > Paul Osborne wrote:
> > ---
> > No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching
> > false
> > doctrin
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:31:22 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
> Paul Osborne wrote:
> ---
> No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching
> false
> doctrine.
> ---
>
> Fortunate for me--I get it wrong nearly every time, and I wouldn't
> have
> lasted long in th
I agree. You're an excellent reader and thanks for pointing out the
difference.
Paul O
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:40:33 -0900 "John W. Redelfs"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At 12:30 PM, Tuesday, 10/29/02, Paul Osborne wrote:
> >No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching
> fals
>It depends on what's meant by "teaching". If you are GD teacher and you
let slip
>a whopper in all innocence, no one's going to care, although you may be
>corrected. But if you start doing it purposely, knowing it's against the
core
>doctrine of the Church (like, say, we should all go back to poly
It depends on what's meant by "teaching". If you are GD teacher and you let slip
a whopper in all innocence, no one's going to care, although you may be
corrected. But if you start doing it purposely, knowing it's against the core
doctrine of the Church (like, say, we should all go back to polygamy
At 12:30 PM, Tuesday, 10/29/02, Paul Osborne wrote:
No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching false
doctrine.
He can if he tries to convince others that it is Church doctrine. Also, if
he is teaching false doctrine, his priesthood leaders will ask him to
stop. And if he
Paul Osborne wrote:
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No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching false
doctrine.
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Fortunate for me--I get it wrong nearly every time, and I wouldn't have
lasted long in this church otherwise. Tolerance is the virtual safety
belt that lets us live with each other in ou
>In fact it would seem that the opposite approach is
>generally followed--excommunicated members are usually discouraged from
>publically discussing their problems or mistakes
My last Stake President was excommunicated. Shortly after his
excommunication he being accompanied by the new Stake Pre
>Ok, question time. If a person is excomunicated due to them having
taught
>false doctrine
No one in this church can be excommunicated for simply teaching false
doctrine.
Paul O
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Scott McGee wrote:
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Ok, question time. If a person is excomunicated due to them having
taught false doctrine, is a statement from them renouncing the false
doctrine required for their repentance?
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If there is such a policy, I have not heard of it.
In my experience, the specific informati
Ok, question time. If a person is excomunicated due to them having taught
false doctrine, is a statement from them renouncing the false doctrine
required for their repentance? It would seem like it should be. If so,
the fact that no such announcement was made regarding the views of a
given person w
"Great consideration is given regarding the confidentiality of the
decisions of a Church disciplinary council. No announcement is ever made
when a member is placed on formal probation. Decisions to disfellowship
or excommunicate are generally not announced publicly unless the
transgression is
Israel is covenant-founded, temple-based, and Christ-centered. The work
of Jesus Christ is the reason the covenant of Abraham exists. The
Abrahamic covenant, which is the covenant of Israel, is in every way as
significant in the last days as it was in any age of the past.
Jesus Christ is the S
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Subject: Re: [ZION] Who is the House of Israel?
Noel:
After reading your response to John, I had a thought (I know,
scary thing). Sometimes--in fact many times--in the scriptures and
doctrines of the church, one word does mean many different things. For
example--salvation and exaltation
I agree that there can be multiple meanings across the realm of sacred
literature. I am not as interested in the dictionary meaning as I am in the
meaning of its particular use in scripture. I would be very easy to simply
say that, since gentile, for example, as multiple meanings, I can ignore
t
Noel:
After reading your response to John, I had a thought (I know,
scary thing). Sometimes--in fact many times--in the scriptures and
doctrines of the church, one word does mean many different things. For
example--salvation and exaltation. Are they the same?? Sometimes
"Salvation" is u
Noel Bennion:
John, ... You mention that Gileadi said that the members
of the church were gentiles. Was that the reason he was
ex'ed?
___
No, it was not the reason. And he is again a member.
Gentile has several meanings. The dictionary meaning
is anyone who is not a Jew. So
ese topics. I feel a strong need to get to
an answer so that I may better understand the messages in the scriptures for
whatever label is applicable to me.
Noel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:27:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 08:29 AM, Saturday, 10/26/02, Noel Bennion wrote:
Perhaps you could help me out a little here with the answers to several
questions:
1) Who are the Gentiles?
2) Who is the house of Israel?
3) What does the fulness of the Gentiles mean?
Well, that is really the problem. Each of these term
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